Gangbang Q&A • Episode 25

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[00:01:32] Hi everyone, this is Kinks and Cocktails, a podcast where we talk about different kink every episode. Today we're doing a Q&A episode. My name is Katie and I have a special guest with me today. This is Drex. Hi Drex. Hello. How you doing? Thanks for having me. Yeah. Great. Alright, so I guess, how do we know each other? Well, we know each other by six degrees of separation since your husband and I come from the same office. So, that makes life easier.

[00:02:00] So, I mean, anyone who's ever heard of any of my shenanigans, because unlike most people, I'm very open about it. Yeah, love that. I don't have to be ashamed. Because when you are that person, you don't need to really hide anything. That's true. And what can anyone do to you, right? Yep. If you do anything outside the office and someone that says, well, what were you doing? Well, it wasn't any business of yours. Yeah, it was a pretty shit going on, right? Yes.

[00:02:26] And I think one of the things is, is that everyone who is not doing what you're doing wishes they were doing what you're doing. Good point. You know what I'm saying? Like, you actually see this with a lot of broke down, sorry married dudes, right? Yes. They always want to see pictures and videos. What were you doing? Oh, yeah. They ask too many questions. You're like, dude, are you sure your life in marriage is okay? Because you're asking me a lot of questions about some kink shit.

[00:02:56] And it leads me to believe that your marriage sucks, right? Yes. Well, leading to that, I guess I always say to people and to myself, I'm too old to give a fuck anymore. But with that being, I guess we should tell our listeners why you're here today. What is our Q&A about? What do you do? We're doing a Q&A. The lifestyle in and of itself, you know, you could do a thousand different Q&As about every little facet.

[00:03:24] But we're going to focus on the very nature of the gangbang, right? Yes. Because it has exploded in popularity. And I have a lot of theories as to why it has exploded in popularity. Because that was not the case. When I first entered the lifestyle, we're talking almost, I think, 20 years now, nearly. Okay. I guess sometimes I go over history. So this is perfect timing. Yeah. Tell me. Yeah. Yeah. It was about 2000. Yeah.

[00:03:51] I want to say 2005, I believe, is when I first got into lifestyle, right? I was 17 years old. Oh, damn. Look at that. I'm a young man. I go back in time. And it's really crazy because certain people, the lifestyle, I believe, benefits. Like, I believe the lifestyle, for the most part, benefits.

[00:04:09] If I had to pick who takes the most perks from it, I would say it is the bull and I'd say maybe the hot wife. Yeah. I think if I had to pick the two groups that really get the most play. Because, like, if you're the bull, primarily black or white, those are like the two groups that women from all ethnic groups want. I would say that you have the greatest success.

[00:04:38] And then because, you know, because men don't have the same stringent requirements for women. A woman who is fuckable to most men is going to enjoy herself within the lifestyle because, let's face it, it doesn't matter if she's black, white, brown, blue. Yeah. If she shows up and the guy goes, I find that attractive. But bets are most guys will find, you know, because an average looking chick will always get more play than an average looking dude.

[00:05:07] An average looking dude gets nothing, right? Yep. For the most part. Is this the SMV you were talking about? Yeah, SMV, the lifestyle is what taught me. Explain that a bit. So SMV is sexual marketplace value, right? And the lifestyle is what taught me everything I need to know about SMV because the world that we live in is all one big facade, right? Yep. The things that people tell you are all fake. Literally every single word they say is all bullshit. So if someone tells you, oh my God, you know what, Katie?

[00:05:37] And when you, you have a guy and he's a nice guy, shut up. Nice guys always finish last. Nice guys get used. And if, I'll put you like this, right? When Jeff Bezos, who has all the money, right? He has all the money. But you saw the video of Jeff Bezos at that award show or whatever red carpet event and Leo DiCaprio was there, right? Yeah. And Lauren Sanchez, his girlfriend now that he's divorced from McKenzie, cucked him in front of everybody, right?

[00:06:06] Wait, maybe I didn't see this. What did she say? No, no, no. She, she treated Jeff like he was, you know, chopped liver, right? And she is just all over Leo DiCaprio. Like I'm talking all over him. Well, I mean, if I had the chance to hug Leo DiCaprio, I might. No, but, but therein lies the point. See, what happens is I'll tell you what society tells you. Society tells you that Jeff Bezos has higher SMV, right? And that is not true.

[00:06:35] Jeff Bezos has higher RMV, right? Relationship marketplace value. Okay. I see what you're saying. Because he has so much money and power. He has more money and influence than Leo, right? Yep. But what he doesn't have is the looks and the, like, you know, because let's be honest. More women would rather be on Leo DiCaprio's arm than Jeff Bezos' arm. Like I said, yes. Right? Totally. So if that is your focal point, if you start there, a lot of things within the lifestyle start to make sense,

[00:07:02] which gets into what I was going to talk about today, which of course is the very art of the gangbang, right? Mm-hmm. And a lot of the things that happened within the lifestyle, if I think back, I go in time and I said, early on, this is, so we're talking like early, this is mid-2000s, right? Mid-2000s, late-2000s. I started seeing certain things, right? I would see these, these, like, you know, the cougars and all that, those kind of women. And they'd be at these parties. They'd be at clubs. They'd be at hotel takeovers. Yeah.

[00:07:31] And they were, you know, requesting things. Okay, cool. Fair enough. But see, then something hit me. I look over and I see the dude they're with. And I'm like, hmm, yeah, okay. Something wasn't tracking? They're not equally yoked. You see what I'm saying? Okay, yes. Like, if prime Brad and prime Angelina Jolie had walked into a place together, like Mr. and Mrs. Smith era, people would go, yep, they belong here, right? Right, this makes sense.

[00:08:01] This makes sense. Now, when you see something that's imbalanced and you kind of look and you're like, okay, like when Julia Roberts was with Lyle Lovett, right? She may think the world of Lyle Lovett's ugly ass face, right? She may think he's a great guy. He's sweet. He's great with the kids. See, this is the beauty, Katie. In the lifestyle, no one gives a fuck if you're a good father. Or a good husband. Right. Or a nice person.

[00:08:29] It's purely SMV, right? Yeah. This is how the gangbang really started. Like, the seed started coming into the mind. Because women's inherent narcissism and solipsism, which is me, me, me, me, I want attention, right? Yeah, the me girl. They're the main character in their own movie, right? The me girl. Me, me, me, me. The me girl, right? Yes. Okay, so why does that matter, Drex? Okay, check this out. Let's say you are a guy X and you make really good money. You're a software engineer. You're blah, blah, blah.

[00:08:57] Shout out to all my Indians because this is going to really apply to you and all the beta cucks in the Pacific Northwest, right? If you are out there, you're making decent money and everything is good and you think your wife loves you. She doesn't. She does what you provide. And you show up and, you know, because remember, a guy who is that type of dude, right? Probably on the spectrum, right? Mm-hmm. And as I've told you, I have gone on shows in the past and I have brought up certain topics that got me a lot of enemies, right?

[00:09:24] And I said, if we look at what the average guy is, the average guy is unfuckable to women. You see what I'm saying? You're not wrong. And I think people got mad at me. They got mad at me for saying that. I said, I go, hold on now. I said, let's go down the line and let's talk about what average guy is. As a woman, I can go out to a bar and get a drink and fuck anybody I want. You could easily, right? And like a guy, they have to work at it. Dude, the amount of work the average dude has to do, right? So let's go down the line, right? All right. So, all right. So, okay. Here's the deal.

[00:09:53] Let's look at average height. The average height of a man in America, right? Uh-huh. Is roughly like 5'8 and change, right? Yeah. About 5'9. Yep. So, I want you to, you know, mental image of this guy, right? Yep. We have 330 million people in America. So, 5'9 guy. Let's just, you know, he can be any color. Black, white, doesn't matter, right? We'll just say he's gray. You know, he doesn't have- Height matters. And height matters, right? So, you're a 5'9 dude. You have average looks, right?

[00:10:21] Now, let's get into the social aptitude of this particular individual, right? Yep. That is another very important thing. It's very important, right? Yes. A dude is- When I go anywhere with Danny, Danny knows everybody in the room. It matters. He's a cool dude. He's a cool guy. And what is the benefit of knowing everyone in the room? So, for those of you who don't know, the benefit of a man, especially a man, a man knowing everyone in the room who commands the, at least attention. Is that the command, even the respect? From the naked eye, people see that he has attention from everybody in the room.

[00:10:51] Why is that important? Other women now find him more fuckable, right? Through pre-selection. Yep. See what I'm saying? If you walk in the room as I'm- We're going to get back to the normal guy, right? The average guy. The average weirdo, right? Who doesn't get laid. All he does is wears out his left and right hand, right? Stroking it. Right? Yep. Ferociously. Yep. Right? And, you know, he memorizes only things, you know, not phone numbers from the 90s, but he only memorizes all the porn sites, right? Of course. I'm memorizing by hand, literally. Yep.

[00:11:21] Not by heart, but by hand. And these type of dudes, right? Socially awkward, right? We're talking about, you know, software engineer types, right? Yep. The guys that make good money, they believe the lie, right? I just go out and make good money and I meet a nice girl and she's pretty and she wipes me and she touches my pee-pee every now and then. And then these guys go out and do all that. I think she's going to live the dream. She's going to, I'm going to live the dream. We're going to have 2.5 children. 2.5 children. How does this work? How does this turn out, Katie? I'll tell you how it turns out.

[00:11:51] The guy who is this software engineer, right? Average height, average looks, and he makes very good money. I could actually cheat and just say he makes average money, which for a man in America is roughly, I think like $42,000. So this guy is really down, man. If you're making $42,000 in America and you're 5'9 with average looks, you will never see a vagina, okay? Unless you pay. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, you're going to be an only fan subscriber, right? Yep.

[00:12:20] And so the reason why this is all important is as this guy comes of age and he will realize something. His RMV and SMV are not aligned. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. And he's going to realize when, why doesn't my wife look at me the way she looks at Channing Tatum in Magic Mike, right? Why doesn't she look at me with, you know, this burning desire, this passionate lust? You're saying money only goes so far. It only goes so far, right? Yeah.

[00:12:49] Because you can't negotiate attraction in the same way that- Women can only do it for so long in the bedroom with these rich men. With a rich lame, there's only so much to lose she can use and so much she can look up at a popcorn ceiling. She can only handle it so long. And use toys and vibrators and butt plugs and all these things. There's only so long she can do that before she says to herself, I just need more. What I actually want in the bedroom. What I really desire, right? Now, that could have been from her college days. That could be, you know, I mean, I've been around every type of woman you can imagine.

[00:13:19] So the repressed types, right? Okay. So I'm going to give you guys a little insight. Anything that is considered bad, right? When you're growing up, your upbringing. Anything that's quote unquote bad- What do you mean by that? Is good later on. So I'll give you an example. Let's say we have a girl who grew up in, what's a really, you know, let's say the Bible built, right? I grew up in a place- I grew up religious. Yeah. Okay. So let's use Alabama, those kind of places, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:13:47] She grew up in the rural, deep south, Bible belt stuff. Let's just say for the sake of art, she had a super racist upbringing, right? Oh God. Uh-huh. Don't do that. Because what's going to happen later on? Guess what, racist daddy? Yep. She's going to go buck wild for BBC. Yep. Oh, did you, did you, did you grow up Catholic and they said everything was sinful and bad and you're going to burn in hell and, you know, everything is about punishment? Guess what happens to that girl? A lot of it does send from childhood, for sure. It's sent from childhood. Yes.

[00:14:17] So guess what ends up happening to her? She turns into a BDSM cum slut, right? Yep. Absolutely. And she comes up, she's all about pain. I'm a pain slut. I love it, Drax. More, more, more. The exact opposite of how she was raised. Whatever. That's why I said, if you, if you go up like just kind of middle of the road, like just level, you don't tend to go to these extremes. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So all of this kind of culminates. This is all kind of like, this is like the backstory, right? It's like the prequel. And all of this, I bring this up for a simple reason.

[00:14:47] The same lame software engineer guy we just described earlier, this average dude, right? Yep. This average dude, when he wonders why his wife just isn't quite into him like that. Right. At some point, she's going to, because remember, it's always going to be her idea because you know why? She still gets looks when she goes to the gym. She gets looks when she's carrying a damn child stroller. She gets looks when she's in the grocery store. He doesn't. He doesn't get shit. Right. Because he's a five foot nine average guy with fucking basically no social skills, right?

[00:15:17] He doesn't command a room. He has no physical presence. He has little, you know, noodley arms, right? Yeah. Weak, weak shoulders, weak voice, right? So she's always getting offers. Just has his wallet. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pet wallet, right? But she's getting looks all day. She's getting, you know, guys, maybe a cat call, maybe a, hey, what's up with something, right? Right. So eventually she's going to give in, right? And the internet and all the articles within the general media and everything, they tell these

[00:15:47] women like, oh yeah, yeah, girl, live your best life. Open relationships. A lot of girls don't like. Like getting cat called. They say, no, no, they just don't like getting cat calls by the wrong guys. That is true. Okay. You're not wrong. You're okay with everything. Look, I've, I've been told everything that you can imagine. And I've always said all of this bullshit because, uh, I don't know if you've ever studied body language. Like you're looking like a little bit. Yeah.

[00:16:12] And you can see like the same one, you know, like in court and stuff and like, yeah, like, Hey, look, look at this. It's like, yeah. When you start to understand body language and when, you know, even when people say things right. And I've had women who have said things to me, I've had women tell me to my face, how much they hate me, how much, you know, they would never fuck me, but anything you can imagine. They've said it to me. Right. Okay. Passion. They all got fucked. Every single one. And do you know why they got fucked Katie? Why? Because they had passion. I guess.

[00:16:42] It's passion. Passion enough. It's the same energy, right? The same energy that they say, I fucking hate you. You're the scum of the earth. I can see that like movie scenes where that happens a lot. It happens a lot. It happens a lot. We're like, they start arguing with them and then all of a sudden they start making out and like help it. Yeah. Yeah. So if a woman is passionate, like, so, so for those of you guys who don't know, right, there'll be a guy listening to this and saying, I don't believe Drex. I think he's full of shit. Cause I've heard that a billion times. Right. I think majority of our listeners are women, but I think, yeah. Okay.

[00:17:12] So if the audience already knows what I'm saying is true. So what ends up happening is the same woman who gets, you know, her, you know, her little G string gets in a bunch. She's mad. She doesn't like the things you say. She's like the way you say it. And then all of a sudden it's like the, what is it in a relationship when you make up sex? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love you. I'm giving the happier I am. Cause like, I already know where this is leading. You see what I'm saying? Right. So you're picking fights on purpose. Yeah. Let them get mad.

[00:17:42] Like, like, I like, I like to stoke those flames. Right. So as they start saying something crazy to you and you know how much, like I said, they always talk about how much they hate you and blah, blah, blah. You'll never even see my tits. I'm just like, yeah, that's why she's talking about, she's got tits on her mind. She's got all kinds of things on her mind and you know, what's going to go down. Right. Yeah. And so I bring all of this up for this simple reason, because all of this has been building up. And like you said earlier, the wallet can only go so long, right? So far.

[00:18:11] Eventually the topic of open relationship will come up no matter what. Some of those of you guys out there saying Drex, you're lying. Oh, I don't believe it. Whether it's open or secret. Yeah. Like see, I'm open about it because I already know most people's relationship is a farce. Like when someone can introduce me to somebody and I just kind of size them up, I'll kind of like, you know, raise an eyebrow. You can either do it safely with your partner and be open about it and talk about it or be secretive and cheat. Yeah.

[00:18:40] And she, and you know, and the thing is though, is like the people who are honest, it's so, it goes much further. It goes much further. Yes. It's a sigh of relief because it's like, oh, we can talk about this because let's be honest, the dude has fantasies too, right? Yeah. Yes. He's watched just as much. Well, a lot more porn than the chick has. Right. And he has all these kinds of fantasies and everything. Well, so has she. So. And if she's open to it, you're already have your foot in the door guy. Yeah. And which is a good start. Like, yeah.

[00:19:10] You, the fact that she even verbalizes it to you. Right. Means that like you got further than most dudes. Cause I mean, let's be honest. Most, most of the time, if you ask women about what they want, they just kind of giggle. I don't know. They play coy. Monogamous. And yeah. They get angry at any little thing that he might be watching porn or. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know, they're just mad. They just haven't been digged down. Right. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be clean and honest with you.

[00:19:35] So when I started doing research into what is the, what are women basically experiencing in this real world that we live in? Right. What are they experiencing day in, day out? Once I found out and I'm going to give you guys, this is, you know, this is, I mean, this kind of works for men and women. Whatever someone tells you that is, they are revealing your competition. Right. So someone goes, okay, so Drex, give me an example. Okay. Check this out. So Katie. Yeah.

[00:20:02] Let's just say someone sits down and they say, Hey, I want you to come over at eight o'clock. And the guy shows up at seven 58. Right. Uh-huh. And she's like, damn. Hey, you showed up and you're like right on time. You're so punctual. You know what she's actually saying? Most dudes are flakes. Most dudes are punctual. You see what I'm saying? Every time somebody. Already that gives them another foot in the door. It gives you another foot.

[00:20:30] It's not hard to be a gentleman and that's all it takes. That's all it takes guys. All you have to do is just do your job. Right. Yeah. So, so a guy shows up and he's on time. And, but he's like, yeah, you know, I just got back from work. And rather than pull his pants down and say, Hey, get this dick. Instead, he has his whole bag. He takes the whole bag, goes beeline to the shower. Right. He's like, yeah, look, I gotta go get cleaned up and everything. Right. He's like, Oh, you don't need nothing. He goes, Nope. I got everything in my bag. Damn. Really? Wow. See, she, every time.

[00:20:58] You are describing Danny, my husband right now. I love him so much. I'm that dude. Like everywhere I go, I have to have that bag. I got toiletries. I got a change of clothes. You name it. Right. Yeah. And so when the guy goes upstairs, he goes, you know what I'm saying? He gets himself clean. He gets it so lotioned up. See, I get a little lathery. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be ashy while you try to take care of himself. You got, you got to take care of yourself. Yes. You know, brush your teeth. You know what I'm saying? Use the, use the mouthwash, floss, whatever you got to do. Right. You do all the things. Right.

[00:21:29] Being a human. It doesn't, it doesn't take much guys. Come on. But when you do this, she starts saying things about how you, you taste so good. Oh my God. How you smell so fresh for the competition doesn't do these things. Right. Each step of the way, gentlemen. And like I said, I can apply this to women. I can reverse it. Yeah. Each thing you do is building you up. Yes. So a person can be much more attractive than you. They can have more money than you. They can have more clout than you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:21:55] But at the end of the day, when you don't do these things, you start to go down the ladder. Right. Just in the same way that you can go up, you can go down. Yep. Your attitude. Right. Yeah. Are you, you know, there's, there's people out here. A lot of chicks are Debbie. I think a lot of that hygiene too, just gets down to like hygiene. Just our internal human instinct of like procreating. Like who do we want to, you know, it's just mentally a thing. Well, you, you, I mean, think about how stimulating freshness is. Right. Yes.

[00:22:25] And think about how repulsive like funk is. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's why I like, you know, if it's, if it's a hot summer day and a guy's been outside and he's been working or whatever, he doesn't even want to like hug you. He's like, Hey, babe, I gotta get, I gotta get showered. You know what I'm saying? He's like, I feel so nasty. Well, okay. Pheromones. Some girls are into that. I'm not, but it's a thing, but please just shower. There's different kinds of sweat, right? There's like, right. You were in the yard sweat.

[00:22:53] And then like you ran a marathon and do you know what I'm saying? And you're playing ball at the gym. Yeah. You're playing ball for three hours and the salt is coming out of your forehead. You stink. It's not sexy. It ain't hot. You just stink. Right. So there are levels to this. I did know Danny and I did know a guy who was into that and a girl. She got home from the gym, his wife. He was like all up in there. Loved it. Like, no, don't shower, baby. No, like he loved it.

[00:23:20] You know, there's something for everyone, but I prefer cleanliness as well. Yeah. In general though, women just smell significantly better when they're at the gym. Let's be honest. That's true. I mean, women get out. It's a different smell. Yeah. Compare men smell to women smell the gym. And yeah, most, most women smell pretty damn good. Men, not so much. They smell terrible. True. True.

[00:23:44] And all of this leads to the, the next topic, which is what creates this primordial suit that we're getting ourselves into. Right. Right. As she starts to explore because she wants extra. And you know why she wants extra? Because the average man's penis size is 5.25 inches. Right. I always say, so we have a joke on here. Everybody listening already knows. Distance from the mic. An average penis mic away. Hmm. Damn. Damn. An average. Yep.

[00:24:15] There's chicks struggling. Like, I mean, I'm just going to be real. The, so, so the penis size is, is one part of it. Right. A big part of it. Well, it's a very mediocre part of it. And when you don't have that strong dick game. Right. Toys can only go so far. Toys can only go so far. You don't have the best memory. And it's every fun by yourself. It's not. And I always go back to Mr. Average. Right. You have to look at this from the perspective of this is an average guy.

[00:24:42] So, so most women are with average ass dudes. Right. Yeah. So when they're with an average dude, who's five foot nine and makes average money. He has average looks. He has an average penis. Do you know what the average sexual encounter is? What? Three to seven minutes. Yikes. That's a scary thought, right? That's not my experience. Okay. That is a scary thought. I want you to imagine what it would do to you as a woman. Right.

[00:25:11] If you were the woman who dealt with a five foot nine guy. Yeah. Who has average looks and a 5.25 inch dick rock hard. And then he's only lasting three to seven minutes. Right. It took longer for you to do your hair. Not fun. Makeup. Nails. It takes a long time to serve a woman to like even get into the mood. Get in the mood. Get in the zone. Right. Yep. So think about how long it takes her to get in the zone versus how long the sexual encounter lasts. Right. Right. So why is all of this so important? I say all of this for a simple reason.

[00:25:38] If that is the average guy slash experience for a woman, how long before she starts desiring something bigger, better, more? You see what I'm saying? And it's so weird because if it's so short for the man, why isn't he doing it longer? Well, then he starts straying. Then he starts straying and cheating and he just wants different. He just wants everything. Well, the guy and more often, it's not long, but it's more often.

[00:26:08] I'm going to be honest with you when it comes to the very nature of cheating, because most guys don't get very many opportunities. Right. Because think about it. If we just described an average guy in order for him to get one woman, he had to take her out on a thousand dates, spend a lot of money on her. Right. He had a trick a lot. So if he has her. Yeah. Why is he putting all the effort in to try it for different? Somebody else. Because think about what it takes. You want some variety? Think about the self-awareness that it takes.

[00:26:36] So you have to have a certain level of attraction. Is that an ego thing? I don't think it is. I just think these guys are that lazy. Think about it. Remember, we talked about average dick size and everything. Why don't we talk about the average physique? What is the average physique of a man? Dad bod. In the current day. Dad bod. Is that sexy? That gets women wet, right? Fuck no. Sometimes. No, never. No. Never. Never. Sometimes. So for all the people out there, I know there's going to be ladies that try to defend this. I'm going to be very clear about when I say this, right? Because I know. Everybody loves a stirper bod. Yeah.

[00:27:06] Can we be honest? Okay. So, okay. Let's be honest. If you were to look at any girl growing up and you were to look at all of her, the posters she had on her wall, you know. Oh yeah. For sure. He was always a guy who was in shape, right? Yeah. Can we all agree on that? She never was with a guy who was dad bod, right? Right. That's true. So if that's true and she's now older, she didn't suddenly go, dad bod. No, no, no. Do you know what dad bod represents to women? What? This is a good provider. That's what I was just getting at. It's like a- That's not the same. It's like a-

[00:27:36] That's R&B. That's not SMB. Once they get to a certain age, you're like, well, I'm looking for a father figure. But it's like, why do we have to settle for that? But same with women though. Like every guy loves- I don't care if Danny looks at hot women. I don't. I look at them too. I'm bi. We look at them together. Whatever. But I don't know. For a female, it's also like a more heavyset woman is also kind of a thing now.

[00:28:05] It wasn't in the 90s. It depends. A heavyset- To each their own. Like- It has so many different connotations now. Yeah. Because the word thick has been corrupted. And there's been a lot of words that got corrupted. But- It's the kind of thing where it's just to each their own that you can't- I don't know. But you're not wrong. I totally get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. The- In general, women are not very impressed by a dad bod. And the reason why I bring this up- It's the wallet. They have a dad bod. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:28:35] The dad bod signals he must make money. Right. The body that he has, that looks like he's a software engineer. He's seeing that guy on the beach at the dad bod. If he could afford this beach- Yep. If you can afford that yacht. So this is why I bring this up. I say all of this because when you wind up in some open relationship and you wind up and your wife is, you know, at this club, she's at Splash Mocha, she's at these hotel takeover events.

[00:29:02] There's a reason why she gets attention and guys will run a train on her and women won't touch you. Well, there's a reason why a lot of the hotel takeovers are couples only, single ladies. Yeah. And single men, they only allow so many and they have to pay more. Yep. Yeah. And there's a reason for that. Because- Yep. And here's the reason why I'm glad you brought up the single men have to pay more. Think about what kinds of single men they allow in. Do they allow just big fat dudes with beer bellies? Right. No, no, no, no. Should we get into our- I have so many questions for you.

[00:29:32] Should we get into questions? Oh, yeah. Let's do it. Because we're getting into this, the topics. Oh, yeah. Okay. So you host events, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. So I guess my first question is, do you rent a place out or do you have a spot you always go to? Is it like an Airbnb? Yeah, no. So we've gone to, very rarely do you do people's houses. And I'll tell you what the issue is that I have with doing it at home. And obviously saw what happened with, who was that?

[00:29:57] Was that Bonnie Blue or Lily Phillips that got kicked out of Airbnb for having her, what was it, 100 guy gangbangs? Oh, yeah. I did see- Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's why you don't ever want to create a scene. But I'll tell you the reason why going to someone's house is always weird, is that when someone's like, yeah, come to my place, you don't- There's too many variables, right? Yeah. Many variables. Safety and, yeah. When you- Yeah, safety. There's a-

[00:30:23] Look, I can't speak for the next person, but for me personally, the sexiest place in the world is a hotel. Okay. I walk in a hotel- So you get like a big suite. Yeah, yeah. You can get adjoining rooms and all that. I like that. You have the door, open it up. You know, here you got, you know, multiple beds, all that stuff. Yeah. And, you know, different people have different things. You have wristbands that, you know, signal what someone wants or doesn't like. So if the girls buy- Different colors. Yeah, different colors. Yeah. Yeah, you have different color wristbands, things like that. You know, a girl only wants black or she's into whatever.

[00:30:53] Yeah. So you have things. So people know what they're getting into. Yes. Now, one thing I've noticed about women- Oh, go ahead. Oh, so you said the separate rooms for the hotel? Yep. I did have a note about that. So is there, like, how does it all start? Is there like a cocktail hour in one room, a break room, and then like all the action in the other room? How does it- The only time you need that in general is for orgies. So orgies and gangbangs do represent two very different things, right? Okay.

[00:31:21] The reason why orgies are more work is because you added more women. The more women you add anything, the more complicated and fuckery produced it gets, right? You're not wrong. Because like- Okay, watch this. We're complicated creatures. I want to show you a clear cut difference between an orgy and a gangbang, right? Okay. Watch this. All right. In January 1st, we're going to have a party, right, Katie? All right. Party time. January 1st. One woman, she's super hot, and she says,

[00:31:50] Bring on the guys, right? Okay. How much work do you think that really requires? Don't you just need the room and the guys, right? Oh, okay. We're here to spend- You would think so. Not much, right? Yeah. Now watch this. January 2nd, we got an orgy. Multiple women, multiple straight dudes. Mm-hmm. Do you know how much- Like, you can't just throw them in a room and then like just go, go, right? Go at it. Because what do women do, especially if they're bi? I get to know her.

[00:32:20] Let me talk- See, we don't have to talk about every fucking thing. It's like- If they spend more time- Like, I'm going to tell you what, you know- I'll tell you what- The end of the season. I always end up in the girl's bathroom at the club for like 20 minutes because I met some friend and- Look, I have a thing. I have a thing. Oh, no. I can't imagine that like an orgy. If women would just put in these ball gags, right? And just shut the fuck up and start fucking more and saying less, right? That is hilarious. Because they have nothing of value to say. I'm going to be honest with you.

[00:32:49] I know that that offends people, but I'm going to be real. We're here for a reason. If we don't do this, we're all going to be here for an extra five hours so you can have coffee- And people are just going to be- Katie, you know I'm not lying, right? You've heard of these stories, right? Yeah. Where if- It's always the man. Well, 90% of the time it's a dude. Otherwise, it's like a- Lady listeners, don't get angry here. I'm kind of agreeing with this. Like we all are in a certain time schedule. Y'all, look, look. Okay, look.

[00:33:15] Like I said, the reason why a lot of women get in their fee-fee is that they don't like what I'm saying. But if they would think about it, I go, ladies, I want you guys to imagine this, right? For all the ladies who are going to listen to this. It sounds offensive, but I can't agree with you. If you were in a room- I will not shut up. Think about it. You're in a room, right? There's five other women, right? I want you ladies to- We're going to talk about our outfits. We're going to talk about our cocktails. We're going to talk and chat and like, who do you like? What guys are you eyeing up? What do you plan on doing? Can you do a whole like thing? And all of a sudden- Before everything gets started.

[00:33:45] We met at seven, right? Seven was the meetup time, right? It's now 10 and no one's been fucking. Yeah. Well, it's pretty late. We better get home to the kids. What? And the dudes are like, yeah, we haven't smashed nothing. Y'all just been talking. See? So the ladies need to do like, you should do like a pre-cocktail hour just for the ladies. They're so- You should. Women would just- You should. Just let them mingle first. Just ladies only. Let them show up an hour or two beforehand. Yep. Let them mingle. Yep. Let them-

[00:34:13] Because all they're going to do is waste time, right? I'm just being honest. And then- You're right. And then when the guys show up, you know, we just say- They're ready to go. They're ready to go. Send the ladies to the room to go like freshen up and everything because they've been rapping and cackling for three hours. But they all have to freshen up separately because don't send them to the bathroom together. Yeah, can't send them together. Because that's going to be a whole other hour. Yep. See, once again, do you notice how everything with dudes is so simple? A guy can go like this. This is how guys work with gangbanks.

[00:34:40] We get in and we ask the housekeeper, you know, extra towels, right? Yep. Dudes just go one after another to go take, like, freshen up, right? Yeah. Because remember, you always took a shower before you came. You just want to freshen up because you've been sitting in a car driving 30 minutes. You might have sweaty balls, right? Yep. You don't want that. So you see a quick freshen up, right? All of our goodies are on the outside, right? Yep. It doesn't take a while. Get a little loofah. Swash, swash, swash. We're done, right? Going off. Guys are ready to go, right? Yep. Dick in hand. You see what I'm saying?

[00:35:08] Women, they take so fucking long. It's like, just come out of here and get fucked. That's it. That's all we're required to do. They have to touch up their makeup. Yeah, I got my makeup. I got it off. But then, like you said, the guys aren't going to care if your mascara is off a little bit. Katie, I can't stress this enough. Only a person who loves women can say this. We aren't you. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. They're not going to care. Let me give you an example. Every female. Oh my God.

[00:35:37] Well, you know, my big toe is a quarter inch longer on my right. The guys don't fucking care. They don't care. They don't care. Anything in your, this is for all women listening. Anything you can ever think of, right? They don't fucking care. No, they don't. They just want to fuck you. Yep. I know that sounds crazy. No, listen. My aunts told me this when I was a teenager. And I tell my nieces now this. She told me, she said, you know what? And my uncle, her husband is standing right there. He's like, I'm going to tell you this right now.

[00:36:07] And it's the truth. Men are pigs. Yep. And my, she looks at my uncle and he's like, yep. And I've stuck with that my entire life. Like they don't care. And now I tell my nieces that like men are pigs. Just know that. Okay. But Katie, here's the thing though. I'll tell you one. I think that the problem is you have two ways to go with that information, right? You can be mad at men for being men, right? Like, oh my God, you guys should be like this, right? Basically be more like women. But if they were more like women, nothing would ever happen.

[00:36:38] And so I'll give you an example. True. Ray J and Kim Kardashian sex tape, right? Uh-huh. You had two betas in the bedroom, right? So what do you want to do? What do you want to do? It's like the lavender marriages of the gay men. Yep. Yeah. Like nothing gets done, right? Like you need, you need a bull and you need someone taking it, right? Yeah. You need an alpha and a beta. So if the dude is just kind of sitting there going, what do you want to do? I don't know. What do you want to do? Whenever I'm, whenever. Cause yeah, I'm kind of.

[00:37:07] Pretty much submissive. But like when I'm with another woman in the bedroom, nothing really gets done. Nothing. Now, now, now hold on. Okay. Now watch this. What happens when all you have to do is add one strong man smack an ass? No, grab her. Kiss her. Directing, right? He's the director. Yep. And all of a sudden put on this strap on the woman, a woman just takes direction. All of a sudden she can get into it. She's now into it, right? Yeah.

[00:37:35] Without the strong masculine presence. Chicks will, they will sit there at every meet and greet, every hotel takeover and just talk and nothing will ever get done. Shout out, Danny. And, and, and, you know, when you look at the, the very art of the gang bang, right? You got to talk about, you know, how do you, how do you have the dudes, right? You got to have the proper guys. You need to make sure because. So the way that this works is that you always have. Uh, like, so, so. Oh, wait. Okay.

[00:38:03] So now you're talking about the guys getting involved now. Do they have to pay a fee to participate? No, no, no. All my shit's free. I don't, I don't. All of it's free. Yep. I don't do any of that weirdo shit. Some people do like, cause I'll tell you what a lot of people do. Cause I thought, yeah. Like, I thought it was like, Oh, like a hotel takeover sort of thing. No, no, no. I'll tell you why I don't do hotel takeovers. Too many people. And okay. So too many tourists. Too many, just, just too much extra. Right. I prefer the private setting.

[00:38:30] If someone's saying, Hey Katie, this is a eight person play time or a 10 person play time or whatever. Right. Okay. You get, you know, a hotel room is set up and joining rooms depending on what kind of play you're having. That's 12 people. Right. Yeah. More than enough. When, when a chick wants to do a gang bang, right. In shots, every one of my cheating wives.

[00:38:50] I think that God has blessed the world with cheating wives because they get buck wild more than anyone else because they were married to, like I said, lame ass software engineers. Right. So when they show up, what they want to know, he's like, you have two kinds. You have the kind who are kind of like, they're, they're still pickier. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Women do this thing where unlike dudes, you guys have this thing where you, you have absolutes. Men have preferences. Women have absolutes. Right.

[00:39:20] Mm-hmm. So women were like, Oh, the guy has to be this color. He has to be this. He has to be that. Whereas dudes don't have, we just go like this. As long as I'm attracted to. They get into like their, their book erotica fantasy mind. They have to stare and be like, well, he has to be six too. Why does it have to be six too? He's fucking right. Guys have to like watch porn to like masturbate. Girls can just like think in their head. They stick in their head and have this whole, like, you know, this storyline made up. Right. Yep.

[00:39:45] And the reason why this is important is that when it comes to how do you, you know, have your roster for whatever play time. Right. Yeah. You have to know the woman. Okay. So, so these things are all brought up long before they ever play. Right. Like, Hey, you know, what type of guys do you like? You know, what kind of, you know, what are your, what are your do's and don'ts? Right. Your limitations? Because some women want to be spanked. Some women don't like being spanked. Right. Some women want restraints. Some, you see what I'm saying? Like this, this is just human nature. Right. Right. You know, what, what turns one person off may turn some, somebody on.

[00:40:15] You need to have everyone in alignment. Right. Yeah. So once everyone's in alignment, all right, guys, Hey, here, cause you do a pick exchange, right? Here's the girl that wants to show up on like, like prime example tomorrow where there's a flight and it's supposed to be coming in. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So. At the office. I go like this. Here's, here's her pictures. Right. Yeah. So here's her pictures. Check. The guys look at it. Okay. Yeah. We like it. And then she now see, so both sides to see, right? So she can choose now. Yeah.

[00:40:44] So if she says yes to the guy, like, yep. Yep. Each one of these guys is good. Yep. They're all cool. Okay, cool. Then all the guys got to pass, right? Okay. All right, guys. She okayed all five of you. Okay, cool. Yeah. Well, they, she okayed all five of them. You know how guys are. We're much more lenient. We don't need you to look like our future wife. We just need you to look fuckable. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. This chick looks fuckable. Cool. So the guys are like, yeah, yeah. Let's let us know. So everybody's all in in the beginning and then she can choose who. And okay.

[00:41:14] I like that. And then she chooses. And then I think that would be a worry for most women of like, what if there's somebody I don't like that shows up? Yeah. Like that there's like a. That's why I don't like takeovers because. A lot of people. Okay. Rejecting people in person, like to their face. That's weird to them. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It is much easier if I say, hey, Katie, what do you think of girl X or guy Y? Right. Oh, well, you know, I feel this way about this. Okay. This one, that one, not that one. Not that. Yeah. You now know what the hell you're doing, right? Yes.

[00:41:42] Because that would be scary showing up and not knowing who you're fucking. Yeah. Not knowing what's going on. Who's showing up. It's something I've never done. That's always been weird to me. And I have always said that you want them to be smaller because like I've seen hotel takeovers. I know what they're about. Most of those people, if you are in the upper echelon of looks, these people are unfuckable. Okay. You have a lot of crusty old dudes with the quote unquote hot wives, right? With the stitched on titties that he bought. Yep.

[00:42:12] And you know how these bodies look, right? They got the C-section scars. They got the tummy tuck scars. It's like going, what is it? The green door in Vegas? Yeah. It was the red rooster in the green door. Yeah. All these tired. You know, she just got out of a halfway house from last week. You know, these bitches look terrible, right? And so you see all of this and you think to yourself, if you're a certain type of dude, right? You fit what women want, right? You're a certain height.

[00:42:41] You're a certain look. You got the body. You got the abs. You got the muscles bulging. Your dick is rock hard. You know, it's swinging, right? And you have the gray sweats dick, right? Everywhere you go swinging, right? When you have all of the things and you look around and you're at a hotel takeover, see a bunch of sloppy looking bodies. You're like, I ain't fucking any of these chicks. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So you want small, you want quality over quantity in everything in life. Right. I feel you would have both, right? You'd have high quality and tons of it.

[00:43:09] But that's not like, once again, I always go back to the average. I can't stress the whole, you know, the average thing enough because most people are average. Most people are average height, average intelligence, average money, average dick size. Well, when you go to like Temptations Resort in like Mexico, it's all like, I mean, there's all sorts of body types, but there's a lot of people that work out all year long just to attend. Yes. Yeah. And because, and you know, how do places get their reputation? Yeah. They get their reputation based on the clientele, right? Yeah.

[00:43:39] And people like, I'll see it like comments on Facebook. They're like, I'm scared to go because I don't look like that. But there's something for everyone. We, we need to bring back body shaming to the extreme. Oh, no. I am. I believe very strongly in body shaming. And I'll tell you why. And I'll tell you why. Not for the reason that people think like, oh, is Drex just mean spirited? No, no, no, no. It's not that at all. I want you to imagine this. What if every step of the way in your life, right?

[00:44:07] Men and women, there were certain fitness requirements you had to hit, right? To get a job, to get clothes. Like, we, we got to start shaming these clothing companies for having, you know, 6XL. How are you that goddamn big? You see what I'm saying? But there is a fat kink. I'm not saying it's safe or healthy. They're not sane. It's like, diabetes is not cute. You see what I'm saying? Some people are into it. It's feederism. Feederism kink. Yeah. Look, here's the thing. I'm okay. Look, I love kinks. I think that shit's cool, right?

[00:44:37] I did a whole stream on Chubby Chasers, right? Do you know this podcast? I do all the weird kinks. This is a more tame normal episode. I did, I did one about a quicksand fetish. Like, I do all the weird shit, so. I haven't heard that one. I've heard it a lot. I haven't heard about quicksand. Quicksand, tickling. I'll do all the weird shit. This is a normal, more tame one. And even for everything, though, there's still a body preference, which is okay. Everything is a spectrum, right? Yes. In the same way that. I always say that to you. Yes. It's like, okay, like with food, right?

[00:45:07] There are certain foods that in America, you know, you have all these different people. Most people will like foods X, right? Yep. And then outside of that, you start, you know, it gets fewer and fewer. So by the time you get to like sardines, very few people eat sardines. I love sardines. Sardines, right? Like, you may like them, but you know that very few people like them, right? That's what my podcast is about. All the weird stuff. Yeah. Yes. But see, that's a small minority, right? Mm-hmm. But then on the other end of the spectrum. Very niche. It's very niche. But there's certain other things. If someone goes like this, oh yeah, most people like pizza.

[00:45:36] Most people like, you see what I'm saying? Yes. Most people like pizza. Okay, I get what you're saying. Yes. So when it comes to all of this, right? Most people are looking at porn that are very fit, good-looking people. Yes. Yes. Okay, good-looking bodies, right? Fit bodies. Even if you are a chubby chaser, you can admit that this is physically appealing. You may have your own preference for the fat chicks, right? Or the fat dudes, right? Mm-hmm. However, you can still go like this. Yes, I know that this would be physically appealing to most people, right?

[00:46:06] Yes. It'd be appealing to the eye, right? Yeah. Even though my preference may be Lizzo, right? Uh-huh. I can say, yeah, I can see why people like Margot Robbie. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So because of that, when you look at these resources, your reputation is tied to the clientele. So if you go to like, say, Velvet in Miami. It's all money stuff, too. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. You got it. It's the money. Yeah.

[00:46:33] So when you mark it an image, what you wind up with is, okay, these are how these gangbangs go now. And I'm going to tell you something else that I noticed that is female specific, right? Mm-hmm. If women, because women don't have the same thing that men have. Men have the thing where they go like this. If you're down, I'm down. That's how men's brains think, right? It's very binary. This is how women think. If a woman's, let's say a woman has a dating profile, right? She's on Fat Life. She's on whatever, right? Mm-hmm.

[00:47:00] And she says, oh, I want to do a gangbang. I'll tell you how delusional females are and narrow-minded. They will see, based on the pictures you have of the certain women you are smashing in these gangbangs, right? Mm-hmm. They will take offense if the body doesn't look like them. Oh, I can see that happen. Yeah. That's fucking insane. I can see that happen for a second. Because, no, I get what you're saying. Yeah, because that's not what the men are thinking. They don't care.

[00:47:29] That's not how men, like, okay. Men, okay, watch this. They think it'd be like a body confidence experience. Yeah. Katie, you know this is true about dudes. Because guys are binary, right? They go like this. Smash, pass. We don't have all this in-between shit, right? Mm-hmm. So watch this. I can acknowledge that Taylor Swift is a flatback, right? She has zero ass, right? But now watch this. Hey, Drex, smash her past Taylor Swift. Smash, right? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Better pigs.

[00:47:58] I don't care that Taylor Swift has no ass. Yeah. That doesn't mean I'm going to say no, right? No watch this. We'll take a chick who's more curvaceous, right? Let's say prime Shakira, right? Yeah. All right. Shakira's like what? Like four foot 11? Yeah. She looks very different from Taylor Swift, right? Airy Drex, smash her past this hot Colombian or Brazilian, where the hell she is. Smash, right? Mm-hmm. Then you can get a bigger chick, right? You can get a smaller chick. Black, white. That's the way dudes think. We just go like this. Smash, pass. That's it. Yep. Women will go like this.

[00:48:28] They'll see. They're like, oh, my God. So I have to be there. What are you into? What do you do for fun? What are your hobbies? All these questions. Once again, you know what? Are you a beer drinker or a tequila drinker? Yeah. Do you have any pets? Just take this dick. You see what I'm saying? Like, I want you to imagine this, right? Katie, every time a woman is about to complain, argue, bitch, moan, whatever, right? What if they just took dick, right? Think about how much better the world would be. That's a little angry.

[00:48:58] Yeah. That's where all the bitter old feminists are, where they're all, like, angry at the world. And it's like, why is this chick so mad? And you realize, oh, she's a dick now. So many of my listeners are going to hate you right now. They know it's true. Like, you know what's crazy? If they spent, like, literally, like, one day with me just talking. If women had more orgasms. If they haven't. But that lies. That relies on the men giving it to them. I look. Now, Katie, as much as the ladies would. Maybe I hear something I say and go, I don't like that Drex guy. Maybe if they were better at doing it.

[00:49:30] See, no one ever brings up this part, right? Yeah. Do you remember when I talked about that average dude earlier? Yeah. Notice how we got to the gangbang, right? Yeah. What was the onus? The onus was on him to perform, right? Yeah. He failed the burden. Yes. The burden of performance. Why do we have to have so many men just to get this done? Yeah. You lame dudes need to start blowing bitches' backs out, right? Yeah. You need to go ahead and I will tower her. How many guys that take to screw in a light bulb? Yeah.

[00:49:58] Like, this whole, you know. Damn, that's sad. Three to seven minutes? You failed as a man. You didn't make her squirt? You failed as a man. You can't lift her up. Like, Katie, I'm going to tell you right now. I'm a very big guy, right? Uh-huh. And one of the things that I notice is when I pick women up, because I'm about 6'6 to 50, 55. Mm-hmm. When I pick women up, right, just show physical dominance, right? Yeah.

[00:50:27] They're always startled. And you know why? Like, up against the wall. Yeah. They're, like, stunned. Like, oh, my God. Their eyes get wide as saucers, right? And what you start to realize is guys don't pick them up because they're not physically capable, right? No, it's the best feeling ever when a guy picks you up. It's like, oh, my God. They're like, oh, my God. Okay. So notice I put the onus on both sides, right? I go like this. Men should be physically capable of picking women up, right? Yep. And on the flip side, women should be light enough for a man to be able to pick her up.

[00:50:57] You can't be 300 pounds and be like, well, I mean, he ain't a real man. Some guys want to be smothered. Yeah, but that's a small, once again, small amount. To each their own. Yeah, to each their own. Some guys are like, smother me. Yeah. Yeah, and a small chick is smothered, right? A small chick is smothered in the face. Yeah. And I bring all of this up to say this. Each one of us has a responsibility, right? Men and women.

[00:51:23] So even in a gangbang, Katie, do you know what kind of fuck shit can happen in a gangbang when dudes are acting weird? I've seen the videos. And you got dudes that'll say something weird, do something weird. I do have, okay, I have another question. Go ahead, hit me. Here we go. Do you have any experiences or stories to tell about something happening? Did you have to kick somebody out? Did something weird happen? Yeah, it just happened. Okay, what? Tell me. Give me the tea.

[00:51:52] This was, hold on. Let me make sure I get the date right. Or was there any bloopers? Something funny happened? Like, oh, there's always bloopers. Like, somebody slip on some lube. Like, what happened? Oh, you know what? Give me some stories. Some funny stories. My girl is going to. Did somebody get kicked out? Oh, yeah. I'll get you with it. We just had some really funny shit happen recently, within the last couple of months, right? So we hosted a gangbang back in, I think it was August or September, right? And there was an August one.

[00:52:17] So at the August one, there was some kind of miscommunication. Next thing you know, fuck, you know, the condoms are running low, right? All this fucking, but the condoms are running low. Yeah. Somebody. I wish I could make this up. So after all the shit was done, right? Like, so the gangbang is over. Everybody left, right? It's after hours. It's after hours. And so we're like, you know, because I don't want to be that person that, like, you know, leaves the room a mess. So, you know, we at least, you know, clean up a bit, right? Okay. I did ask that too.

[00:52:47] Do you guys are, do you clean? Do you hire cleaning a crew? You, you know how there's people that will go like this. Like they'll, they'll do some wild shit and just get them like, well, I'm out. I'm out of here. Time to go out for a smoke. It's time to go out for the, yeah, yeah. So they go out and do that, but I don't do that. I make sure that the room is good. So everything is like tidy, you know, trash bags are in the corner. You know what I'm saying? So house teams just come in. Somebody got fucked in here, but oh, well, it's at least clean. Yeah. So this is what ends up happening. We're cleaning up.

[00:53:16] And she goes, Rex, you see this? I look over and she just busts out laughing. What the fuck is she looking at? Someone was, was ran out of condoms and ripped open a fucking tea bag. Cause you know, the package is like roughly the same size, right? You mean, wait, what? So, so, so I want you to imagine this. Wait. Your balls deep. Condom breaks. You know, you're like, oh shit, let me go get another one.

[00:53:45] And you're like, Hey man, has anybody got one? We're in a hotel room. There's a tea bag. And my man. You mean like the actual, like. The actual tea. The tea, see they dunk into the, into the mug. Someone thought, so someone mistook that for a condom. So imagine their shock, right? Oh no. So, so imagine this, right? Your balls deep. Condom breaks. You're like, oh man. I gotta get back in that shit. At least she was what, organic? I hope. But I don't. And ripped off the package.

[00:54:14] It's not gonna do anything safety wise. Oh, you don't even get a Jimmy hat. You get a fucking Lipton English breakfast. Like, what the fuck? Oh my God. And so you, you know, there was that moment where the person was like, fuck. Gotta do something. Gotta do something. So, so we saw that and that was one of those things. What about that girl's pH levels? What if that's not safe for her? Yeah, you got that green tea. Yeah, we got that green tea balance. Green tea. And herbal. And there's just all kinds of weird shit that happens.

[00:54:43] We had a, we had a dude recently get kicked out. This is the first time I can remember. Yeah, tell me about a kickout story. So we get kicked out. Dude got kicked out. We call them Gangsta Grills, right? Call them what? We call them Gangsta Grills. Okay. So, so here's what ends up happening. At an earlier gangbang, right? Yeah. He shows up, right? So, so we had, because you know, you always, you always cycle. For those of you guys who don't know, you always kind of cycle through people. It's like, you have your regulars, like you're consistent. Like these are my bros.

[00:55:12] Because as you know, with a gangbang, the more people you include, the more schedules have to align. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So, you know this. One-on-one, that's pretty easy. Hey, when are you free? I'm free on Tuesday. Got it. Tuesday, eight o'clock. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. One, one there. Right? Yep. In a gangbang, think about how many different elements have to all call in place. Is there a secretary? I feel like you need to say, you are the secretary. I have all this shit in my head, right? So, I have to, so think about this. What has to occur, right? Everybody's on Google Calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:55:42] Start in the calendar, right? And email it to yourself. Uh-huh. So, Gangster Grills shows up to one of these, right? And he's, this is the first time we've seen him, right? He had responded to one of the groups on FetLife, right? Because we have a gangbang crew on FetLife. And so, he responded like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, count me in. You know, put me in, coach. So, you give someone an opportunity, right? Yeah. Like, okay, let's see if this guy shows up, you know, does his thing. First of all, his body, let me just say this. Didn't match the picture?

[00:56:13] Let me just say, I didn't see any of the pictures. I'm just going to assume. This is what I believe happened. I believe he catfished the way women used to catfish dudes when we used to have 1.3 megapixel cameras, right? Oh, yeah. You got a favorable angle, right? The MySpace, like, top angle. Yeah. Duck lips. Duck lips. He must have done that shit because he showed up and I'm like, I'm looking at this dude's body like, bro. Or it was like a picture from like 10 years ago. Yeah. So, I'm looking like, bro, you. And so, I'm seeing this in real time.

[00:56:43] Like, bro, like, here's the thing. My homegirl is a freak, right? Miss Laura is legendary, right? Okay. She's a freak. When you show up, she's ready. She's already ready. Yeah. And Gangster Grills, this is time number one, right? He started doing shit that is unacceptable, right? So, in a gangbang. He didn't have the etiquette. Yeah, yeah. Gangbang etiquette is important. This dude was sitting there like this. Like, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Y'all smoke.

[00:57:12] And everyone's like, bro, we're here to fuck, right? Do people drink and have cocktails and smoke? You're here to fuck. Fuck. Are you allowed? Katie, fuck. I want you to think like a guy. Fuck. What is your only objective here tonight? Fuck. So, you're not allowed to pregame with a cocktail or anything? No, no, no. There's the thing. If you do something outside of the room, that's on you. But let me explain why that's so important. There's no cocktail hour, like, at a wedding. No, fuck that. Okay. No, you know, and I'm going to tell you right now. Here's the thing. Now, this could be my own bias, right?

[00:57:42] I'm a lifelong non-drinker, non-smoker, non-drug user, right? Okay. There is no side action. There's like, because, and let me explain why. You've heard the term whiskey dick, right? Yes, true. You've seen people that have gotten high or they were on some other bullshit. Yes. You saw them and you're like, oh, what the hell? And they tweaked out. You see what I'm saying? Yep. I've had lots of little situations in the past, right? And because of those situations, you learn over the years, right?

[00:58:12] The Drex of like 2006, 2012 is not the Drex of today. You see what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. I've been through all the bullshit. So, each thing that has happened in my lifetime, I went like this. All right, this is why we don't allow smoking. All right, this is why we don't allow drinking. All right, this is why we don't allow. I can't have any dude behind me. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a one track. Yeah, you need to. When you walk, you walk around me. You can't be behind me, bro. You can't be behind me. That's etiquette, right?

[00:58:41] Never be behind a man when there's fucking going on. You see what I'm saying? Because some of these dudes got Felice Johnson tendencies. You got dudes that's down low, especially these fucking cuck husbands, right? And there's guys out here, like I said, they're trying to lick up baby batter. You know what I'm saying? These dudes are weirdos. They're in the closet. And so, each thing that has happened, you adapt to it. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Because you and I both know a lot of people lie in this lifestyle, right? They lie about their sexuality. They lie about what they're into, what they're not into. Things are going to happen on the spot, on the fly. Yeah, you're like, whoa.

[00:59:10] Yeah, where you didn't expect that. They didn't say anything before. I didn't expect that. Yeah. And it's like, so my thing is this. When it comes to the way I organize my shit, guys have to be 100% straight. There can't be any of this. No, no. There's no such thing as heteroflexible and all this other weirdo shit. No. That's, okay. So I also was going to ask too, do you vet people in or are you just like random? Yeah, so the guys have to vet in. Is through women. Women are the best vetters in the world. That's true. I like that. Because, let me explain this, right?

[00:59:37] I'll tell you why I always have certain women who test guys, right? Mm-hmm. What if a guy walks up and says, hey, I saw your FetLife profile. I want to be in, right? I'm in good shape. I'm a good looking guy. I got a big dick, blah, blah, blah. Okay, he can fit the things on paper, right? Yeah. But do you know how he can perform in a group? Do you know anything about this guy? Right. He could just be wanting just to fuck you. Yeah, he could. You don't know what his deal is. Yeah. When women, they're like, yo, Drex, I smashed this guy. What did you think of him?

[01:00:06] Oh, he had great staying power or he sucked or he was this or he just all talk or he's lazy. He's late. Look, I've known of dudes who cried after smashing. Cried. As in like a bitch. Why? Started crying. Why? There's people who are emotionally damaged. There's people trying to use sex. Well, yeah, but what? You didn't go to a therapist. It's not a gay thing. They need therapy. They don't need gangbanks. The reason why I bring this up is because a lot of people use sex as a means to cope, right? It's a coping.

[01:00:36] Right. Yeah. Just like drinking and drugs and whatever, right? Yep. So when Gangster Grills is out here, someone's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I want a drink. And everyone's like, bro, we're here to fuck. See, what this is, what he's doing with his behavior is telling. Because a lot of people, they get the confidence to finally do it. Thank you. Yeah. And you see, the only thing you need in this world as a grown-ass man is a fucking swinging dick, right? I was just going to, yeah. Right. That's it. All of this weird, like, the fact that there's- Liquid courage or anything like that. Yeah, liquid courage. Think about this for a second.

[01:01:07] I like some liquid courage. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, but see, it's different than women. Women and men are completely different in what is expected, right? Because you guys can lay back, squirt lube on your vag, and get hollowed out. I like to chill, have a good time, have some liquid courage. Yeah, dudes have a form. Like, think about it. They're just there. If a dude doesn't get hard, he just, he gets laughed at, right? Yeah. You show up to a gang, man, you couldn't get hard. Bro, you're done. You see what I'm saying? Have you ever seen that happen? Somebody get laughed at? Gangster Grills got basically laughed at. Are there bloopers?

[01:01:36] Like, I want to know the tea. There's, I'm trying to think of, like- Have you ever seen, like, anything, like, where everybody just burst out laughing? Is there a story of, like- Yeah, we've had, like, moments of just, like, funny stuff. Yeah, I want to hear. I don't know what those, I don't know what those, you know those birthday things that kids use that when you blow into them, they're like, what? I just, I just posted a photo on the Kingston Cocktails social media the other day. Somebody created, it probably wasn't real, it was just set up, but it was a gag ball with

[01:02:04] one of those, the birthday blow things inserted into it. So, when you're wearing it, and you- Oh, and every time you breathe, it comes up. Yeah, so- And a kazoo. A kazoo was another one. A kazoo, yeah. Oh, God, that horrible sound of this. So funny. But the- Yeah, funny stuff. She used one of those, it was her birthday gangbang, and she used one. And was blowing into it, it was pure, like everyone was laughing. Like, down there? No, no, no, no, no. Oh. She used it for her mouth. So, she's getting smashed. So, she's getting smashed from behind. Yeah. And the guy's like, dude, blow into it.

[01:02:34] So, she's laughing while trying to blow, while getting smashed. And it was, because here's the thing. I think there's a- Sex is supposed to be enjoyable. I think this is a category on Pornhub. Like, funny. Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The bloopers, the BTS, right? All that behind the scenes. Because this is the thing. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable, right? Yeah. Can't be all be serious. Have fun. Well, when you're with, for all those ladies out there who married Cubicle Carl, right? Cubicle Carl. When you marry lame-ass dudes, this is all the ladies out there.

[01:03:02] All you ladies who, like I said, my most ardent defenders are all female. Contrary to popular belief. They're all female. Like, people hear things I say and they go, oh my God, he's offensive. But it's all women who love me most. Because like, look, I know he may sound harsh and everything, but if you got to know him, you would know he's the one looking at you for more than these weirdos, soft dude, male feminist ally types, right? These guys who wear dresses and all that shit that are getting pegged, right? Okay. Dudes are getting pegged. Let me ask.

[01:03:32] This is for all the ladies out there. How much enjoyment have you ever truly gotten from pegging a dude? You know? Because women are like, oh, it's empowering. And then one night they'll wake up and be like, you know what? Majority of the time, women doing that, they're getting paid for it. They're getting paid. I was going to say that. But you can't dismiss that that's not for everybody. Some people are into it. I'm not. I don't understand how, even with other women, I don't like wearing a strap on or anything. I can't. I can't. I'm not into it.

[01:04:02] I'm not into it. You've done that, right? Like I said, usually for money. But I'm going to tell you right now, the women who try to defend it, right? Whether it was for money or for not, right? They try to defend it. And I was like, that's not who you are. And then, you know, you want a real man. And they say, oh, no, you're just close-minded. And you know what happened to every single one, 100% of the time? What? They came around and agreed with me. They're like, I need a real man. I'm tired of the guys. Exactly. Because as a woman, you can't respect a dude that you're pegging.

[01:04:29] Pretty much 100% of sex workers online or in person are doing it for the money. Yeah, for the money. It's work for a reason. If a dude does something. Uh-oh, I can't hear you. I'll hiccup. I don't know if it was me or you. All right, there we go. We're back. But the main thing is this. When you're in this world, right? Yeah.

[01:04:58] And you got a guy like Gangster Grills. And he shows up again. Because she had already said. We actually were hiding out in the lobby where they have food. This is the Hyatt. This is the Hyatt by the Mall of America, right? And in the lobby, there's a restaurant. Are you eating beforehand? No, this is after. So gangbang time, right? This is Danny's question. This is perfect timing. Danny's question was, is there like a hangout afterwards where everybody eats food, goes

[01:05:26] to the buffet, like it has cocktail hour. No, that's too much. That's too much personal shit. That was Danny's question. Shout out, Danny. Shout out to Danny. But yeah, look, man. The world needs to have more fucking and less everything else. You see what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Because once again, this. Okay. Let me say the way my brain thinks. Why would I be doing X when I can be fucking? You see what I'm saying? You're a man. I could be talking about the weather or I could be smashing, right? I could be fucking.

[01:05:56] I could be eating or fucking. You see? You notice how everything it's. It's the alternative is the better option, which is fucking. You're a man. And that's why this is this is the nature of the gangbang. But here's the thing, though. A lot of women around these effeminate, weak ass dudes who want to like. I just want to hang out and feel the vibe, bro. What fucking vibe? Fuck. You see what I'm saying? Like, let's get to it. Let's get to it. What do you mean vibe? The vibe is that there was. This chick had.

[01:06:25] God gave her three holes, right? He gave you one dick and testosterone. And two hands. And two hands. Make it happen. You see what I'm saying? Uh-huh. But see, I say this and people. And once again, I ask women. I have another question. What's that? Sorry. You said all the women with all the hands and holes. So have you ever done like hosted a reverse gangbang? No, women don't get along. What do you mean? Women don't get along like that.

[01:06:55] Oh, it's not. Okay. Because I've seen them online. Yeah, that's because they're getting paid. Yeah. Okay. See how that works? Okay. So watch this. There's never a bunch of lesbians hitting you up. Like, hey, can we? I'm glad you brought that up. Lesbians are some of the biggest gangbang desires. Wait, why? I've never thought of this. Okay, why? Lesbians don't exist. Okay, first and foremost, lesbians don't exist. That's first.

[01:07:22] And then these chicks that talk about, you know, oh, I'm a lesbian, you know, blah, blah, blah. They slide in on the low. Talk about some. When I'm into a girl, I'm into warm ass girl. Yeah, yeah. You know it's true. A lipstick lesbian. Her and I just like, just want to chat and hang out. And maybe something will happen, but probably won't. Yeah, it's, once again, the moment you add a man into the mix around any women, the dynamic will change. And vice versa. Let's be honest. If you have a bunch of dudes hanging out. That's why I need Danny.

[01:07:50] Yeah, you put in an attractive woman or two, you insert them in, the flow gets mixed up, right? And yeah, the, the different types of women who are into gang bangs. Right. Yeah. At the top of the list is. I'll just say wife. That could be a cheating wife or a wife. And usually, is it usually for like her birthday or some sort of special occasion? Usually she had a fantasy. Or is she cheating? Yeah.

[01:08:15] Like either it's, either it's the husband's gift for like a holiday or she's cheating. Yeah. Cause like, I will say this though. One of the things that, that is worrisome that can be, you know, if you're in my position is if the husband is too into it. You see what I'm saying? Cause you know, there's levels to this, right? This is how it should look. Let me explain how this should look. Oh, Hey, you know, my name is John. You know, this is Cindy. You know, you know, we, you know, we really like husband and wife for a while. Yeah. Husband and wife.

[01:08:43] Let's say they've been in lifestyle a while and you know, they've done a couple of threesomes and they went to a party once, but she wants to really kind of let loose. Ramp it up. Whether it's a birth, like you said, whether it's a birthday. It's a special occasion. Valentine's day, whatever the case. It doesn't matter. Right. But she wants to up the end. Okay, cool. As long as she is speaking and she's like engaged. Cool. But this is something that you'll see. And you'll see this in the regular lifestyle, right? Where, why is the dude, the one talking? You see what I'm saying?

[01:09:12] I was going to say, it's like going. You know what I'm talking about, right? Where the guy's like, this is what she likes and doesn't like. It's like, why hasn't she said anything? It's like going to the doctor's office with somebody and you're in the room with them and the doctor's asking the patient questions and the other person's answering for them. Nope. So how'd you break your arm? Yep. And this is how it broke. Yeah, that's not okay. That's a red flag. Red flag. Why are you answering questions? Yeah. And that's the thing. This is one of those things where you learn as you get more experience.

[01:09:39] Like when we were young in the game, Warstar and I, we would come out, we were doing our thing. We were in the burbs running. We were tearing suburbs. It was the amount of chicks we were smashing that were all married, all cheating. Right. We smashed somebody. It became so easy. We were like, we're just going to assume that every single chick in the burbs is cheating. And then, you know, there was a, there was a study done recently that said 70% of women have a backup guy already ready.

[01:10:10] Right. Plan B. Yeah. They, they, they, they have a, they have a guy on the back burner, 70%. That's just the ones that admitted it. I believe it's closer to a hundred percent. And what we learned is all you have to do is allow yourself to be available because like, like, I'll give you an example. A chick is sitting there that you work with. Right. And remember what I said earlier about, you know, people reveal a lot about the competition with their words. Right. Oh my God, you smell good. You taste good. You're this, you're that.

[01:10:38] Well, women do this when they just do girl chat. Right. When you guys are talking, you're like, oh my God, I haven't had an orgasm like probably ever other than with my toys. Women will say something. And then if a woman knows somebody like say me, they'll relay the message like, Hey, yeah, you know, my coworker or my friend, am I that there's some kind of interaction. Right. And then a lot of times, as you know, because we live in a society full of everyone just lies. Right. What ends up happening is they say, oh, I don't believe you. Well, here's the videos. Oh shit. That's real.

[01:11:07] And then they start. Now you're not wrong. Cause my first, no, my second sexual experience ever in my entire life. First one. Just lost my virginity or whatever to a dude. And then the second one, the very next weekend was with my girl, best friend and him. I'm like, girl, got you. That's how it works. Right. Like you guys relate the info. And that's why I say referrals. Referrals are king in this, in this world. Right.

[01:11:37] Yeah. Because when you, when you have vetting is important. Yeah. That, that, that eliminates all random free for all. Yeah. You eliminate so much hassle by going like this. Yep. Katie, this person is solid. Right. Like for what you need there, like, you know, if you need this or you need that, you want this person. So that brings me to like, you do this all on like FetLife, adult friend finder. Right. Yep. Okay.

[01:12:02] So are there like groups that you started like forums on those sites or how does that work? The way that we did it is that we just did our thing, had our pictures, right? You know, we have pictures, we have videos. So we just do our thing and say, you know, here's the profile, right? This is what we do. This is how we get down. If you're on fake shit, you know, kick rocks, right? People message you and then you go through the messages. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So you and someone is happening is this is kind of like human nature, right?

[01:12:32] When someone sees something that they like, that they want to, you know, partake in. Yep. They, they'll find it. They'll find it. They'll, they'll project themselves into that. Right. And go, let me get in. And this kind of goes back to what I said earlier about with, uh, with women in particular, where they like women that look like them, that resemble them. Right. So if I, okay. So I've had, I've noticed this, especially with black. Cause it feels like no competition. Yeah. They look like you. Yeah. Black chicks go like this. They'll get mad. Cause they'll say like, well, I don't see any black women in there.

[01:13:01] You're sitting there like, well, I mean, let's face it. Most of the population in America is not a black woman. And of that. Are most, are most girls that are into gangbangs, uh, white women? I guess I don't know. Yeah. Mostly white chicks. Most of the videos I've seen. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, we, we've had Latinas and everything like this thing in terms of like, just. Well, unless, and then it's the reverse with white girls and a bunch of black guys. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:13:29] It's because you got to understand it from this perspective, right? If you were to look at like on a cultural level, right? Who gets, uh, and fanalized and idolized the most it's the white chick. Right. So what ends up happening is they've spent an entire lifetime of everyone calling them a princess. Everyone kisses their ass. The me girl. The me girl. Oh my God. Look at. So, so that's since they were like children, like, Oh my God, you're so cute. You're adorable. Everybody loves you.

[01:13:57] And so like when you're older, you want all that at same attention. Well, you want the attention, but you want it directed in the opposite way. Right. Rather than being an adult now princess. You're like, no, no. I want to be fucking slapped around bent. Oh, you're an adult now. Yeah. Now you're, now you want it much more intense. Right. So in that context, there's not that many people who can deliver that because like I said, most dudes are just bitches. I'm just going to be honest with you. Right. They're soft. They're weak. They're limp wristed. You know what I'm saying?

[01:14:26] Low testosterone. So they're not going to really do anything. Well, also I always said to that, like, uh, being a dumb, you're actually the sub. Yes. So you're doing whatever they want. Yeah. Yeah. In that dynamic. Uh, well, that's why I call it power exchange because what people need to understand is that like the, what the, the dom sub dynamic, right? What it really boils down to is the sub needs someone on this earth that they can trust to explore all these things. Right. Right.

[01:14:57] So the dominant personality is the person that does the things, but he still needs the consent of the submissive. Right. Because, you know, cause I've heard that saying before, but I'm like, but think of it like this though. Right. If you take away the quote unquote dom and replace it with a sub or just a neutral, you get nothing. You see what I'm saying? Right. I'm afraid to just hang it out. No. So that's where the dom, because the dom personality goes like this. Somebody's got to take charge. Someone has to take charge. The dom takes charge. You see what I'm saying?

[01:15:26] So, and you see this in, in the gang bang scenarios where like there are women out there who get very aggressive, right? Like, because like I said, they're ravenous. Well, like there's a difference between just, you show up and you're getting smashed as a female. Right. And then there's these women out there. They get kind of dominant about it. They're like aggressive with it. Like they're like, like, like, like, yeah, fuck me. Like that. Yeah. We're kind of, they seem like the submissive role, but in the end they're kind of being dominant. Well, it's, it's challenge, right?

[01:15:54] So it's a challenge to the guys now to exceed her in, you know, you're her heightened, you know, I guess you say, like as a dominant personality. Yep. They have to now exceed that. Yep. You see what I'm saying? Because everybody has a, if you aren't that guy, it's not just a and B it's, it really isn't like you, you, yeah, there's different levels of both sides. There are levels. For sure. The, the, the, you know, the, the man and, you know, what his role is and the woman, what her role is.

[01:16:23] I met women who are like, like I said, they're very aggressive. They're very this, you know, there's the passive submissive. And then there's, you know, you've heard the term power bottom, stuff like that. And there's a pillow princess. There's a pillow princess. Yeah. There's different personalities, right? Yeah. And you have to know who fits this personality best. You see what I'm saying? Oh, and then to get everybody together all in one setting, put all those personalities together. That is a huge feat. You only need, but here's the thing though. You only need one dominant person to neutralize her.

[01:16:53] Cause remember if, okay. So watch, I'll give you an example. Okay. That's, I can see that. You don't need, you know, eight alpha males in a room versus one woman. You see what I'm saying? Right. All you need is one dude. Who's that guy. And he's going to be the director. He's a director. So he's going to clap the, what is it? The director board and say, action, action. Let's go. Or do you over there? Producer action. Let's go. You know, there's a lot of guys out there. I'm gonna be pretty real with you. Uh, I actually just had this happen. Um, where they need that direction.

[01:17:23] Not only do they need it, but like, I think most guys given the option, they would never get laid. And I'll tell you why. Oh, a lot of women can say, I'm here. I'm in lingerie. Let's go. And they would just sit there like, Oh, and I think that's why a lot of girls don't like this scenario. Cause I think the guys are just like, this is easy. I can just show up and get laid. But that's not hot. Yeah. Okay. So, so the, the attraction, like, let me explain like the psychology of the gang man. Right.

[01:17:52] I was saying earlier about when it comes to the, uh, the mental side of the woman, which is like, you know, it feeds her narcissistic supply. Right. You know, she, all attention is on her. Everything is about her. Yep. You got to remember the, the life of most women. Most women have never been in a scenario where guys, multiple guys at the same time in a sexual context were ravenous about her, right? Grabbing her, touching her. Cause one set of hands is almost rapey. And we're, and that's like, that's why you need you.

[01:18:19] So this is okay to experience that in a safe space. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. It creates like a fun space to experience that. It's that gray area, right? Like women, women, the thing that women love more than anything that I've noticed in my lifetime, women love the gray. They love to play in the gray area. That's why, you know, the, uh, the number one, uh, sexual fantasy women is great. Right. Yep. That's what they love the most. Right. Yep. And then right after that is this new thing that's now going on, which is CNC, right? Consensual non-consensual.

[01:18:47] So we're like, I'm just walking around for our listeners who don't know what that is. We're just like walking around in the woods and you give permission to some dudes to come and grape you. Yeah. Yeah. And in one thing that I've noticed about, uh, like I said, you know, earlier when I said that women get startled when I, when I pick them up and stuff, right. They didn't, they didn't technically consent for you to pick them up. They can send a view to hug. Right. But because you exerted dominance, what ends up happening is you didn't abuse your dominance. You see what I'm saying? Right.

[01:19:17] What women want to know is he has the power to do it, but he chooses not to. That's what turns them on. That's a good, really good point. Cause a lot of like the graping fan is like scared of like, oh, he's just going to stick it in me. But that's not a part. A lot of it is like, yeah, it's wrong. It's, it's like, yeah, he's going to, he's going to say things that you're like, basically you're whispering consent, right? Like he's like this, like, like, you're going to check this. So he's like, yes, yes. This is the part of like the, the dirty erotica book side of TikTok I'm on for some reason. Yeah.

[01:19:45] No, it's the erotica. And like the, it's like a, a weird consensual like CNC, like, yeah. Because, because think about you, you and I both know, right? The consent is whispered. It's not like, yeah, there's so much. There's so many books about this. If you see a girl reading a book. Who are we? No, you know the first person that introduced me to all this in terms of like the, the, the book side. Yeah. It was actually my, my massage therapist.

[01:20:14] I still remember like, what's her actual job title, but my massage therapist way back in the day. Right. Like the sweetest girl you could ever meet. Right. Yeah. I'm talking, you know, crochets and does, she's like this nice, quiet, sweet demure. It's always those girls. It's always those girls. The most wild out freak shit, but hardcore bondage. You're like, I'm like, what? And I kind of knew. Cause you know, you know, you meet somebody. Yeah. And you're like, it's like, I've had it happen to me once. Right. Like I was sitting there mind my own business and someone was like, wait a minute, let me get a straight direct.

[01:20:44] So you don't drink check. You don't smoke check. You don't do sex is your drug. You don't, you know, party. You know? So she went down the list of all the things, right? She goes that. Okay. Looking at your personality, it doesn't fit. She goes, there has to be something about you. She goes. You're a sex freak. I was like, oh, there it is. There it is. There's no way a dude of your stature and your personality would just be like saying no to all. It's the normal dude. Just go to work every day. Not doing anything. Just go to work. Come home. Get my coffee. Yeah. She, she knew.

[01:21:13] So the, the, the allure to all of this though, I think is like you, you get to play in the gray and for women, if you ask anyone out there, right. And this, this kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier about the women who I've told you said to my face, they hate me. Right. Right. What turns them on the most is it's that gray area. Right. It's being able to say like, I have this feeling for this person or this situation. Right. And do you know what? Gray area is all play. Yeah. It's play.

[01:21:40] And when women, so, so one of the big things that you'll notice though, is that like there are certain women out there. Right. And they don't know if they can do it. Right. You know, and I'll say, Hey, look, how about this? They're scared. How about you just try a threesome? Right. Yeah. And they're like, Oh, I've never had more than one. So let's say a chick tries a threesome for the first time. Right. And you know what she, you know what they always say? I love it. I have more. And they just go like, they go like buck wild. And you're like, damn, really? Like that was all it took. And so they go from a, they go from a threesome to saying like, because you know what it

[01:22:10] was? It wasn't just the sexual act. You know what it really was that turned them on? It was like that taboo nature of that gray, which is like, you know, threesome is there like normal. And yeah. Yeah. And then they, yeah. The gray area. It had that heightened sense of eroticism. Right. Yep. And so what ends up in a gang bang is, and I'll tell you something else that a lot of

[01:22:32] women will not admit to now on camera anyway, but I'll admit it for them to see what they were capable of on camera. Capable. I like that. That's, it's like a, it's like a confidence booster. Yeah. Like whether it's their body image or like what they can do. And like, I'm sure they wake up the next day. Like, Oh my God, I can do anything. It's like skydiving. Like skydiving.

[01:23:01] I've had Katie. I've had women and I've known women in the past who, and like, I'll give you like an example of like people who, who we've done gang bangs for the past. Right. PhD professors. I'm lawyers. Oh, there's people everywhere. Yeah. Every walk of life. Housewives. Preacher's wife. Right. I can go down. Preacher's wives. Oh my God. I love it. And you, there's all these different women. Right. Yeah. And you know what they all had in common? What?

[01:23:30] They all wanted that thrill? Yes. They became insatiable. That was it. All they need to do is they just need to cross over that one time. Right. Once they crossed over, they were, I'm not joking. They literally weren't the same person anymore. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. They were, they were person A. All their life. You know how it is, right? Like, Oh, they're in their head. You can see body image. A lot of women have these issues with like their body and all that stuff. So what ends up happening is when you put them in that. They're like, Oh my God, everybody wants. They want me. My God, they want me. They're the meager.

[01:24:00] Yeah. The meager. And guys are rock hard. Right. Yeah. And they're caressing her, touching her, fucking her, whispering her ears and just being aggressive. She's like, Oh my God, these guys just manhandled me. So when they watch the video of themselves, they're like, they go, Holy shit. I can't believe I did that. I can't believe I. Oh my God. Oh my God. They're like, Oh my God. That was so cool. That was so cool. And they see the way their body is contorted. They see all these things. And they're like, Yeah, I can't like, because what ended up happening is they'll relate this right. And compare it to their past.

[01:24:29] And be like, I didn't know I could. I've never been treated this way my entire life. I've always had to like, be so self. What's the word? Yeah. Whatever. And they, they have, you know, and they were with guys. Let's face it. We go back to the other guy. Who were not great. They weren't good in bed. These guys were, were two pump chumps. So, so imagine. And they're, and they're probably mean to them too on this. Mean. So think about it. This is the only scenario where like the, everything is a positive experience, right? You walk in the door, everything, everyone's saying, Hey, how are you doing?

[01:24:59] You look so great. And let's be honest. I didn't know this until within like, I say maybe, maybe like the last decade ish is the amount of women who had never even shopped for lingerie. You see what I'm saying? It's more common than you think. Like you would think like, Oh yeah, every woman has a lingerie collection. Fuck. No, they don't. No, a lot of women never felt sexy ever in their whole life. Okay. I can see what you're saying. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like they, they have something that looks a little cute. I'm talking like they look.

[01:25:26] But even if they do try to shop for lingerie, they're very picky and very self-conscious. They're very self-conscious. Now, I want you to imagine this. You're a woman. Let's, let's say you're, you're, you're representing some woman out there. Right. And let's say she's, she's a mom, right? She's a mom. She's still attractive, but she's a mom. You know, she's not going to get that weird. Like, well, I'm just a mom. You know? I'm a, like, symbol type. Girl, you're not just a mom. You're a superhero. Yeah. You're like, like, nah, you're, you know, you're a bad bitch. And they, they kind of have this look, they have this look in the eye, like, you know,

[01:25:54] like, like, why are you talking to me in such a way? You know, I'm, I'm so, and I'm a, so what ends up happening is they did, they stopped seeing themselves as like a sex object. Right. Which is a positive. And I'm like, no, guys want to look at you as a sex object. It's going to be a positive energy experience for them. Yes. For sure. Yeah. And so they, they, they, uh, a lot of them have, you know, they haven't worn, come fuck me heels. They haven't, you know, worn the garters. They haven't worn the negligee. Do it. Do the damn thing. I would say, do the damn thing. Wear the heels.

[01:26:23] Put on that lingerie. Somebody's going to like it. Trust me. And what happens? They, they, they'll post a picture or two, or like a, like a seductive kind of like, you know, not a full, like a little like, what's up? They're like, Oh shit. Like, so they get the likes and they get a little excited. Yeah. They get very sex positive. Yeah. You know, I like that. That's cool. They're saying something. They'll give me likes. They're saying, Oh, I will lick whipped cream off you. They never heard no shit like that. A lot of women. Let's be honest.

[01:26:52] A lot of women have shitty sex lives. They have shitty sex lives. So they love the compliment. They love the attention. Right. Right. So when you overwhelm them in that setting, right. Oh, it's like a full blown, like. It's euphoric. Yeah. To, to get a chick to squirt. Who's never squirted before. Euphoric. Like I said earlier. Right. When I said about, you know, like, well, you know, someone grew up in a racist family or something. Yeah. What happens to a chick who is like, Oh, you know, it's, it's, it's a big deal.

[01:27:20] You know, about being with a black guy and all of a sudden they're in a room with five black dudes. Right. Right. Tied it up. Shirts off. Ripped and shit. You know, oiled up. They're like, Oh my God. Cause they've only seen this in the movies. Right. Right. In her mind, she's literally now a star. You see what I'm saying? Right. In the way that it's perceived. Like she's seen the Piper Perry meme. Right. Yeah. One little Piper Perry with five brothers behind the couch. Right. Well, when women live that out in the real world. Right.

[01:27:50] At a four seasons. Right. That's a change of mind. I've changed. They are not the same person. Yeah. They're literally. It is. It is their drug. Why you said why people don't do drugs in this lifestyle. They don't drink. It's like, it is the, it is the drug. It is a drug. Like you. It brings the same serotonin. It brings everything. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. You, you look at what that does to a person when they say, oh my God, you know, Katie, I got to do all this. Here's the other thing. When you do something, even a mini game, maybe you said, you know, let's say three guys.

[01:28:19] What's a mini gang thing? Like three guys. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What is considered a, what's the biggest gang? Biggest. Well, I mean, there's, I mean, you know, numbers are infinite. So. Yeah. Obviously, you know, here's what, here's what I'm saying. Like, are we talking three is the smallest? I'm sure that's. Yeah. Okay. But, but the biggest, what's the biggest like 50? No, no, no. I don't do things that big. And I'll tell you why is that you're the quality of guys going to go down. Okay. Okay.

[01:28:49] Okay. You heard about Lily Phillips, right? Where she did the hundred guys, right? Yes. Okay. But you heard. Wasn't that tops recently with like a thousand? Her old friend. Yeah. But it was like 1500 or something in like 12 hours or something. In 12 hours. Right. Yeah. And people did the math. They're like, that's a matter of seconds. You see what I'm saying? Now, if you ask a woman, which do you think women would prefer? A thousand guys in 12 hours or let's say five guys. Quality. All night. Quality. Okay. So what's the biggest you've, you've hosted? I did. I think we did.

[01:29:19] It was eight or nine. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Oh, I was thinking like maybe like 20. Okay. No. All right. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. Not quality. I'll tell you the main issue. Something that has bothered me about gang bangs and the lifestyle in general is there's an over-reliance on all these chicks. They're like BBC, BBC. I'm like, can y'all please? That is huge. It's got over time. It was Katie. This is no bullshit. It's not. Years ago. It was not like that.

[01:29:48] I don't know how much porn people are consuming. There's a lot of. It's gone overboard. There's a lot of porn. Back in the day, it was all like a bunch of gross white dudes. Yep. And all of a sudden, within a decade, within a decade, I'm not joking. And now it's all like super built. BBC. Yep. Black dudes. Right? And so what ends up happening is that every chick, this is no bullshit, damn near every chick we talk to and we get into like, hey, what do you want? What do you want your thing to be?

[01:30:17] Because of sites like, what is it called? Blacked and blacked raw. Things like that. They're like, I want that. I want the guys to be jacked. And so what ends up happening is because our, yeah, our experience is a present, a gift for you, for people, for men. And so they want quality, not quality. They want quality. Like, so, like, yeah. And you got to remember, like, logistically, think about how hard it is to get 50 guys into a room, right? Yeah. Logistically. Yeah. Now you got to, like I said, you got to rent out an Airbnb.

[01:30:47] You got to, there's too much coordination. Whereas like, if these are your regulars and these are your, you know, let's say your new recruits, that's easier to manage. You see what I'm saying? So the thing that I noticed though, is that like by so many women being obsessed with BBC, BBC, it significantly narrows your numbers. And that's why you're not going to have these like 80 guy gang bangs. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It doesn't make sense because if you're only going to say they have to be black guys, if it's hard enough to get everybody on the same page, everyone on the same date at the

[01:31:16] same time at this one location. Unless you're just throwing a sign out there like anybody. Your quality goes down. Yeah. That's true. That's a good point. Bonnie blue was, she was at a club and basically just said free pussy. Right. So you're going to get lame. It is what it is, but it's not going to be great. It ain't going to be great. Yeah. I guarantee you anybody who watches that video is going to just kind of like, this isn't very good.

[01:31:40] It's just, it's like, it's like you're 30 seconds in and you're like, uh, next, next, the next button. Yeah. Yeah. You're there. You go ahead and hit the, like the DMV, right? Yeah. A little next ticket. So I look at all of this to say the future of relationships will be this open relationship will be the future. Anybody out there talking about monogamy? Monogamy is fucking dead. Okay. That's over. Yeah. I've had people try to argue this.

[01:32:08] I said, look, anybody who argues with me about this point, I'm going to say what's going to happen. They're like the closet pouring people. And that's what's going to happen. It's going to, it's there. It's going to, it's going to rear its head because at some point one of them is going to become disgruntled. Right? Yeah. And then they're going to get caught, quote unquote. Caught. And then there's going to be trouble and then therapy. And then, oh my God, more cheating. More cheating. And so, so what's going to happen is people are like this, look, I got fantasies, you know,

[01:32:36] this, this whole, you know, uh, 2.5 kids in the suburbs shit is not it. Right. I got to do some creepy shit. Right. Yeah. They, they, you know, I just saw a video where the suburbs. Yeah. So funny. God bless the birds. It's beautiful because here's the thing. This is the wildest shit. That's who's the most rabbit. I told you on the phone. Yeah. It's these, it's these like housewife types. Right. They are ravenous. Yeah. Like to the extreme.

[01:33:05] Cause they're like, oh, like close into the house. They're bored. They want to have some fun. You know who else is? Is the career women. The career women. Yes. They are ravenous because, because once they're pent up, because think about it. Yep. Where they got a high stress, high level job and they're always, you know, trying to be done. So they, they do. The same thing of, of like, like career men. They want to have fun too. Yeah. Yep. That's why they either do hookers and blow or they get pegged or they, you know, they, they pay to do weird. This is like, what's that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio? Full circle. Yep.

[01:33:35] There it is. Yep. All right. And that, and that's what happens. Yeah. It's wild, man. And it's like, I just wish more people would acknowledge that. Like that is how it goes down. Cause I, you know, I had people for years who were always saying like, oh, it's just the people you're around. Right. No, that's not true. It's everybody. I was like, it's everybody. If y'all are still. Whether they want to admit it or not, they want to live behind a closed door. They're have their blinders on. Yeah.

[01:34:03] It's, it's wild because like I said, I'll start like, I'll give you like little updates on the gang bangs because that actually leads to there's a guy I want you. I think you're going to love the interview, which is, uh, I think the gang bang kind of goes hand in hand with a, a certain element of the lifestyle, which is like the cuck shit is now like gone pandemic levels. Right. And now cucks are literally paying bulls to smash their wife. Yep.

[01:34:33] So who is this person? Oh no. I'll show them to you off camera. Um, okay. He's actually a recommendation, uh, from one of my girls who's out in Texas. And it was hilarious because you know, he was like, you know, it kind of works on both sides. Right. In the same way that a housewife doesn't believe that a bunch of, you know, ripped up dudes want to smash her the same way a dude who is ripped up and is a person like, no, come on. You know, couples aren't going to be paying for me to smash the wife.

[01:35:02] And she's like, uh, bullshit. Try it. And he didn't believe it. He did it. Two grand. Okay. Two grand. Imagine. I want you to imagine once again, not the life of the average guy, but the life of the top guy. Right. And rather than being a lame who has to pay women to smash. Right. People pay you to smash. Right. All of a sudden think about what that does to your psyche. You see what I'm saying? That's a whole different episode. It's a whole different ball game.

[01:35:32] Cause you're like, wait a minute. These cucks are doing what? You know, you arranged the, uh, you arranged the, the do's and don'ts, how that works. Yep. All of this comes from, and I promise you it all stems from the same mental capacity of the person, which is the fantasy kink level is derived from either dissatisfaction or exploration, which is a curiosity, right? Yeah. You're basically acting on that curiosity.

[01:35:58] And that's why I've said, I was like, the gang bang is the natural, uh, next step because once again, most. So, so when I first started, I'll tell you what was popular when I first started back in 05. Yeah. In the mid to late two thousands, every like couple in single female was all about, I want to try a girl. I want to try a girl. I want to try a girl. That's all you heard. Right. Yep. Then you started getting into like, like let's say 2012. Oh my God. I got drunk and kissed a girl. Yeah.

[01:36:25] Then they started wanting like, uh, let's say they started wanting like the threesomes or couple swap. Yeah. Something happened. It's the next tier. Now it's the next level. Next tier. Yeah. Now, like I said, now my question is this, what comes after the gang bang? Because what does, that is a good question. What is it? I'm being completely honest. I don't know where you go after that because that is true. It's like, what else, what happens after that? I mean, all the niche weird stuff that I talk about on this podcast. Yeah.

[01:36:53] It's like, because at what point where else do you go? Shades of gray shit. But that to me, that had its time. No. Right. That's vanilla. The whole, the whole bondage scene. Yeah. No, it's still around, but like you and I, it was basically like the books became popular. Right. Yeah. Then the bondage should have their day in the sun. And I'm be, let's be real.

[01:37:21] When it came to most of, of 50 shades and all that kind of stuff, that kind of erotica. Most women can handle any of that shit. It was just a fantasy for them. Right. That's what is the book. Yeah. It was the book moms because they were like, oh my God, Christian gray and blah, blah. And I'm like, but y'all. No, Christian gray was a narcissist, gross, disgusting. He was terrible. Like that was a good movie. I'm not going to say it wasn't a bad story. It was a story, but it was not a romance novel. No, absolutely not.

[01:37:50] It was a good story, but it was not romantic. There are women who got into that though. They really got into the whole, I think it is a lie of, uh, you know, this, this super wealthy guy and he's going to tie me up and take me to the red room. But you and I both know, you and I both know most women can't handle that. Yeah. They can't just like, I'll be honest with you. Most women that say that, you know, they want a guy who has a big dick and all that. Most women can't handle big dicks. They can't. Sure. They really can't.

[01:38:18] They say, Oh, because, because that's what the sisterhood tells you guys, right? The sisterhood of women gets together and says, that's why they, you know, think about it. How does every woman say, I want a man who's tall, dark, and handsome, right? Yeah. How does that get said so often? Whereas if you ask dudes, do you notice that every man has so many movies, tall, dark, and handsome, but, but ask men, you and I both know if you went and interviewed a hundred guys, you would get all kinds of answers, right? It would not be a uniform answer, but when you ask women, what do you want to talk? Dark and handsome and rich. Okay. Go to do.

[01:38:50] I like them big, fam. So the dudes like big women. They like dark women. They like white women. They got an Asian persuasion. They like it all. And, you know, speak to Asian persuasion. That's what I got to see tomorrow. Shout out to the monk community. I mean, Katie, I'm going to tell you something right now, ma'am. Hey, my husband. The craziest thing about the lifestyle also, you know, people talk about fantasy. Yeah, you're busy tomorrow. I know. Jesus. You want to tell our listeners what you're busy with? No.

[01:39:19] I got to wrap things up here. So I'll tell you what I ended up doing. The fly attendant chick hit me up, talk about some, I'm going to fly in and blah, blah, blah. From the office. I don't believe her.

[01:39:32] I don't believe her, right?

[01:40:00] Just let me know if you guys are available. So basically they're on standby, right? Yeah. They're on standby. So 8 p.m., right? Like, what are you guys doing Thursday? You know, Thursday. Obviously, this is, you know, Wednesday. I was asking about Thursday, right? What are you guys doing Thursday night? All right. We got five guys who said that they're available, right? All right. Cool. You know, eight ish, right? Yeah. Cool. All right. Now, the guarantee is with the Asian chick, right? Yeah. That's already going to happen, right? Okay. She gets off working for. Yeah.

[01:40:30] She's coming to get hollowed out by me one-on-one. So here's what I did. I went and booked the room, but chose the room type to queen beds, right? Okay. Why? I already know I'm going to use one with the Asian, right? I get the message from the flight attendant that she's ready to go for this gangbang. You're saving money on a room. I'm saving money on a room. I was going to be there anyway. So I was like, cool.

[01:40:56] Like, this seat, you know, I had asked her earlier, right? What did, you know, what does she want? So I got her some Welch's fruit snacks. I got her the water. And, you know, these are, you know, we talk about. All the preparation snacks and drinks. The preparation because everyone likes different things, right? Yeah. Each time. You're thoughtful. Each time you add people, you like to, you know, make them comfortable. Yep. Comfortability, for those of you guys who don't know about gangbang. You're being a good host. You have to be a, you know, that's something I should have talked about more is,

[01:41:25] is what is the nature of being the host? Like, you have to know every detail, right? Because. I love throwing in parties. I'm a good host. Yeah. You have to be a good host. Snacks, drinks. Yeah. There's someone. What kind of snacks? What kind of drinks? Let's make sure we get the water. Ask Danny. I will spend like two days prepping for a party. Yeah. You have to. You have to set the room temperature low, right? The room. So for those of you who don't know, because I know most people are fucking lame.

[01:41:51] You have to set the room temperature low because in a gangbang with that many bodies, it will heat up, right? Right. Okay. So the air conditioning needs to be on. You got to turn that up to blast the cold air. You know, you won't believe this. In that one, that nine person gangbang. Yeah. The fucking thing broke. No, no. You're probably wondering. The air conditioner broke? The, it was the hot. I'm not joking. It was the hottest room. Is everybody all sweaty and like. So now everyone's like, it's hot as shit in here.

[01:42:20] So we're like, I should have like taken a picture. It was like, let's move this to the shower. Here's the problem though. We, okay. So, okay. So had we just gotten in, we could have changed rooms. Right. Right. But because we, the way that our, our, the time was set up. Yeah. We were pressed for time. Cause like, you know, like I said, a lot of these chicks. Yeah. Well, you know, when it happens, a lot of these chicks have like something to hide, right? Like they got a husband. They got a boyfriend. They're on a time limit. They're on a time limit. So, you know, you could, I didn't have that kind of time.

[01:42:50] I've had women. I've known cyclists. Right. And they will leave. This is a shout to everybody who, uh, who's been on the BART in the San Francisco area who will leave. Right. So there's the husband. She's a cyclist. Uh-huh. She leaves with her little grab bag. Right. Yeah. And gets on a bike. He's thinking like, oh yeah, she's, you know, just want to bike. No, no, no. She biked to the BART. Oh, I see. Or to a friend's house. Drops the bike off. Hops on the BART. Right.

[01:43:20] Goes like, you know, from, let's say like Lafayette or Orenda or something. Right. Yeah. Gets pounded the fuck out. Right. And then back on the bike. But doesn't shower. Right. Oh. Because why? Because why? If she showers and she comes home to her husband and she just, and she's like, why do you, why are you smelling good if you went on a bike ride? Right. I've had girls who have picked up their gym bags and I'm going for a workout. Right. Yeah. Get destroyed.

[01:43:50] The lies. Look. Katie, you wouldn't believe the lies I've had. And then she's going to her husband and not showering. And then. And who knows? And I'm going to tell you right now. Do you know what they get a kick out of? What? In terms of like the psychology of the, of the gang bang, the gang bangie. They love the, the, the duality. They love duality. Like being able to present themselves as a homemaker. Right. Or dutiful wife. I'm just going for a bike ride and then come back home.

[01:44:19] And that shit gets them off. Time for dinner, honey. Ready? Yep. No, you're saying. You're like, no, no. Katie, this is no bullshit. I have seen them answer. We've had times where chicks have answered phone calls during gang bangs or before. Yes. Mid scene. Yeah. And then they'll have to, because here's the thing. If she doesn't answer that suspicious. Right. Right. Oh my goodness. So she'll be like, it's him. So everyone. Right. Be quiet. Be quiet.

[01:44:47] And she will literally, you know, oh, that was happening. Oh, that, that changed. Okay. And we'll go and pick him up food after getting fucking ran through. And just like back to my typical Tuesday. And you know what they do though? They text you. See the, the, the, the text exchange afterwards. Is always quality. Right. Because in their mind, not only do they, you know, in their mind, they got away with murder. Right. Right. They love that duality.

[01:45:15] It's a, it's a more, it adds to the mental game. It's a, it's a, it's a twisted, like lustful love story. Right. Like I love the BBC. I love the deception. And she's just like Susie housewife, like back to home to cook dinner. Katie, when I tell you women you would never believe, I'm not joking. I've, I've actually talked about this with guys. I know. Right. We had a chick that literally looked like she was fresh off the boat from China. Right. She wore like the Chinese garb. Yeah. And I say, you would never guess she was a student. Right.

[01:45:45] Uh-huh. You could bet your bottom dollar. It wouldn't be her. I'm not joking. Like she had like the glasses, like, you know, but the bookworm look, a freak, no limits. Uh-huh. And I'm like, you? Like you, you would sit there and look like, because once again. Just going to school. When they wear the clothes, you can't see the body under there. Right? Right. Katie, when you are as a degenerate as me, you start looking at, at chicks and you start in the segment that you guys have like the, you know, you're, you guys like love stories. You guys, you know, you guys read the books.

[01:46:15] Yeah. We have gang bang stories. Right. We look at the chick. We're like, look. Are you going to write a book? Should write a book. I am. I do. I have to. It's been a long time coming. I got to write all the experiences. I mean, there's been so many. Yeah. We do have to wrap things up here. You should write a book. Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely. That was great. You'll be the first to know too. Yes. Have me part of it. Of course. I'll sponsor it. Nice. So sweet. Thank you, Drex. This is so much fun.

[01:46:46] Always. Yeah. Like I said, I'll always come back for any kind of kinky talk. There's a, this has been so much. It's a non-ending book. It is. It's like, well, I mean, it, it keeps writing new chapters, right? Like. It keeps writing new chapters. It does. There's a, there's a couple that we, we helped out before that's coming back. What is that? And she's done the whole team. Okay. Like the whole, whole team. Okay. And I'm like, oh, it's one of those. Once again, married chick.

[01:47:13] Katie, I don't know what it has done to, to like marriage, but like there's something about. It's not a lot. It's still a thing. It still exists. They, they get. It's a thing since the beginning of time. And I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Well, they were never that freaky anytime until like, like, I don't know what year of marriage. Right. I don't know if they, you know, they come with a seven year. Oh, like a certain year. I don't know. We need to like do some kind of research to find out what year is the gang thing year. What year is the orgy year? Like how every anniversary year, there's like a different thing.

[01:47:43] Yeah. What year is the gang thing? Yeah. Well, you know, this is like a little chart, right? It's like, where does this shit start? But yeah, it's wild. Like I said, I'll have more stories to tell. Yeah. Thank you. Kinky tales and something to let you know. Hell yeah. Thank you so much for joining me today. Pleasure. For everybody listening, you can check us out at kinksocktails.com. We appreciate it a lot. Please give us a five star writing. Drex, do you want to give them a place to find you if you want? You can find me on Twitter at real underscore Drex.

[01:48:13] You guys will see me. I'm usually just posting like random, you know, fuck shit. All right. Some of the little Reddit stories about cuck shit because I tell people it's so bad out here. Like Katie, people don't believe the shit I say, right? They go, oh, it can't be that bad. It is that bad. I loved all these stories. If you, if you saw how bad, like if I actually had to just sit down, like I said, I could talk about the naked pushups. The naked pushups? Yeah. That was some fuck shit. Oh my God. This is another episode. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:48:43] Well, there's just like a whole like freaky tales episode of just random fuckery and, uh, and lay it out on the line. Cause there's just been weird shit that's been happening. We have more stories, everyone. All right. Well, thank you, Drex. This has been so much fun. Much appreciated. Hey, have a good night. You too. All right. Bye everyone. Take care. Bye.

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