Ready to giggle? In this episode, we're diving into the world of tickling fetishes! From feather-light touches to full-on laughter, we'll explore why some find it thrilling while others squirm. Get ready for some laughs and a few cringes, as we sip cocktails and unravel the science behind those sensitive spots. Don't miss out—this episode will have you toe-curling, breath-catching, and maybe even rethinking tickling!
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[00:01:29] All right. Hi, everyone.
[00:01:30] We are Kinks and Cocktails, a podcast where we explore different kink every episode.
[00:01:35] My name is Katie.
[00:01:36] I'm Jake.
[00:01:37] How are you doing today, Jake?
[00:01:38] I'm good.
[00:01:39] I'm happy to be back.
[00:01:40] Yeah, it's been a while.
[00:01:42] It's been a minute.
[00:01:43] We've been busy.
[00:01:44] What have you been up to?
[00:01:46] Aside from rescheduling, recording this podcast, I've been enjoying the end of summer, the end of the last warm weather.
[00:01:56] Although it's Minnesota, so we get this weird, it's warm.
[00:02:00] It's cold.
[00:02:00] It's warm.
[00:02:01] It's like fake fall and then back to summer, then fake fall.
[00:02:04] Yeah.
[00:02:05] So it's been just a series of picking out jackets.
[00:02:09] Right.
[00:02:10] Putting some away, getting new ones out.
[00:02:12] How about you?
[00:02:13] Back and forth.
[00:02:14] I found this on the web for us to taking our jackets race.
[00:02:17] Oh, my God.
[00:02:18] Siri, are you serious?
[00:02:19] That's so funny.
[00:02:21] I thought I heard something in the background.
[00:02:23] We're like, what was that?
[00:02:25] Siri, you are not invited to this.
[00:02:30] Siri's like, I want to be a co-host.
[00:02:32] No.
[00:02:33] That would be a funny episode, though.
[00:02:35] We could do an episode on...
[00:02:37] Like an AI or something?
[00:02:38] An AI.
[00:02:39] Oh, that'd be full.
[00:02:40] Oh, okay.
[00:02:41] I'm doing some AI work at work.
[00:02:44] Okay.
[00:02:44] We'll get this figured out.
[00:02:45] Got a little inside track stuff.
[00:02:46] I like it.
[00:02:47] Well, that was a happy accident then.
[00:02:50] Mm-hmm.
[00:02:50] So, I guess I...
[00:02:52] Danny and I took a last minute trip to Vegas.
[00:02:55] Oh, that's right.
[00:02:56] Very last minute.
[00:02:57] We were like out to lunch and we were just having lunch and Danny started looking at tickets and then hotel rooms.
[00:03:08] And in the middle of lunch, we're like, let's go.
[00:03:10] Plane leaves in two hours.
[00:03:12] Oh, my God.
[00:03:13] I love it.
[00:03:13] It's so funny.
[00:03:14] We were splitting a club sandwich.
[00:03:17] Went, ate half of it, boxed it up, left the restaurant, brought it to Vegas, finished a club sandwich in our hotel room when we got there.
[00:03:25] Oh, my God.
[00:03:27] That's fantastic.
[00:03:28] It was great.
[00:03:29] We had a blast.
[00:03:30] Lisa and I are the opposite of that.
[00:03:32] We're the ultimate planners.
[00:03:34] You guys have to plan.
[00:03:35] Yeah.
[00:03:35] Yeah.
[00:03:35] We're spontaneous.
[00:03:36] Very spontaneous.
[00:03:37] You know, Danny and I, our plan is that we have no plan.
[00:03:40] Always.
[00:03:41] Mm-hmm.
[00:03:43] All right.
[00:03:44] Let's see what else.
[00:03:45] I got to try your VR racing arcade thing.
[00:03:48] That was super cool.
[00:03:48] That was so fun.
[00:03:49] You were...
[00:03:51] Well, you were booking it.
[00:03:52] I was awful at it.
[00:03:54] Well...
[00:03:54] You can be honest.
[00:03:56] You and Lisa were only like seconds apart.
[00:03:59] Yeah.
[00:04:00] So, Jake, explain what it is.
[00:04:02] It's like a giant arcade-style race car game in your house.
[00:04:07] Everything you said about that was wrong.
[00:04:08] Oh.
[00:04:09] You say it.
[00:04:11] It's not an arcade and it's not a game.
[00:04:13] It's a simulator.
[00:04:15] Simulator.
[00:04:16] Thank you very much.
[00:04:17] I'm wiping a tear.
[00:04:19] And...
[00:04:21] And, yeah, it is big and it's definitely not arcade-y, though, because it's got, like, force feedback in the...
[00:04:29] It's got the wheel and it's got pressure-sensitive pedals and it's...
[00:04:35] Jake's very sensitive about what everything is called for this.
[00:04:37] I want to call it a game.
[00:04:39] He's going to get mad at me again.
[00:04:40] Yeah.
[00:04:40] My wife says, did you play?
[00:04:43] I was like, do you mean did I race?
[00:04:46] Is there an F1 racing kink?
[00:04:50] I know there's got to be.
[00:04:52] There's got to be.
[00:04:53] There's got to be.
[00:04:53] He's like, I already know about it.
[00:04:56] You mean the one I have.
[00:04:58] Right?
[00:05:00] Blasted.
[00:05:00] Yeah, it's fun.
[00:05:01] That was cool that you got to do it.
[00:05:03] Yeah, it was fun.
[00:05:05] Oh, so, yeah.
[00:05:06] So we had a new idea for new bonus episodes.
[00:05:10] We were thinking of doing a series where we read Pornhub comments in the videos, the funny ones.
[00:05:19] We're going to look into it.
[00:05:21] I think that's...
[00:05:21] I think that would be...
[00:05:22] Like, it reminds me sort of like mean tweets.
[00:05:26] Yeah.
[00:05:26] That you see on like late night, but...
[00:05:29] Right.
[00:05:29] Like reviews or...
[00:05:30] Or a twist on it.
[00:05:31] Yes.
[00:05:31] I like it.
[00:05:32] We'll look into it.
[00:05:35] Yeah.
[00:05:35] So what's this episode about?
[00:05:38] It's about tickling.
[00:05:40] Hee hee.
[00:05:42] I guess the actual term is nismolagnia.
[00:05:47] Yeah.
[00:05:47] Yeah.
[00:05:51] So tickle torture fetish.
[00:05:53] Yeah.
[00:05:53] So our drink pairing was a drink called Giggle Juice.
[00:05:59] And it's delicious.
[00:06:00] Yeah, it was good.
[00:06:01] If you want to learn how to make it, you can find it on all of our social media.
[00:06:07] And then we were going to do a snack pairing of Laughing Cow Cheese.
[00:06:11] But then I surprised Jake and said, nope, we're going to do some Bean Boozled candies.
[00:06:18] Which if you don't know, are the Jelly Bellies with different flavors.
[00:06:23] One flavor is like gross and the other one's delicious.
[00:06:28] No spoiler alerts, but I would have rather had the cheese.
[00:06:35] You can watch us doing it on video on probably TikTok and stuff.
[00:06:39] We'll upload that.
[00:06:40] It was a good time.
[00:06:42] It was a good time for one of us.
[00:06:44] Only one of us was laughing in the end.
[00:06:48] All right.
[00:06:49] So fun facts.
[00:06:51] Yeah.
[00:06:52] Fun facts.
[00:06:53] All right.
[00:06:53] Do you want to go first or do you want me to launch us off?
[00:06:57] All right.
[00:06:58] So I guess the first thing I want to say is I have seen this done tickle torture in person at Ground Zero Nightclub in Minneapolis.
[00:07:08] I also have seen this.
[00:07:10] Really?
[00:07:11] Yes.
[00:07:11] At Ground Zero?
[00:07:12] Yes.
[00:07:12] Okay.
[00:07:13] So maybe we saw the same person.
[00:07:14] So when I went, there is this guy.
[00:07:18] He's like half naked and duct tape over his mouth and on his chest and black marker had said, tickle me.
[00:07:25] And he was like tied to a pole.
[00:07:29] And somebody was.
[00:07:30] Did you see the same thing?
[00:07:31] This is not what I saw.
[00:07:32] Okay.
[00:07:33] And so I didn't go tickle him, but a couple of people from the group I was in would just walk by and he was just people just walking by and just tickling him throughout the night.
[00:07:41] Like, oh, my God, that's awesome.
[00:07:42] What did you see?
[00:07:44] It was bondage night.
[00:07:45] Yep.
[00:07:46] It was one of my friends.
[00:07:48] I won't say who.
[00:07:49] But they they were a audience participant.
[00:07:55] Okay.
[00:07:56] And got tickled for part of their part of their session.
[00:08:00] Wow.
[00:08:01] How they requested that.
[00:08:04] I don't know if it was requested.
[00:08:05] It was a long time ago.
[00:08:07] Okay.
[00:08:07] I can't I can't remember if it was requested or imposed.
[00:08:10] Wow.
[00:08:11] And funny.
[00:08:12] Literally.
[00:08:13] Yeah.
[00:08:15] All right.
[00:08:15] You go ahead with your next fun fact.
[00:08:17] Don't me say next.
[00:08:18] Yeah, just go.
[00:08:18] Okay.
[00:08:19] So there's over ninety five thousand kinksters and fat life dot com with this tagged.
[00:08:25] Um, I'm close for sale.
[00:08:28] There are three thousand stores.
[00:08:31] All combined.
[00:08:33] They have over one hundred fifty thousand clips.
[00:08:35] Oh, my gosh.
[00:08:37] It's a lot of tickling.
[00:08:38] That is a lot of tickling.
[00:08:40] Oh, there's a tickle spa in Madrid, Spain.
[00:08:45] What is that?
[00:08:46] What does that entail?
[00:08:47] So it's like a it's supposed to relax you.
[00:08:51] Okay.
[00:08:52] I know.
[00:08:53] I I was like, wait, what?
[00:08:55] So they just do light tickling like feathers and their fingertips.
[00:08:59] And like apparently it's so light where it's relaxing.
[00:09:04] I don't know, I would do it just because I wouldn't want to be like proven wrong.
[00:09:07] Like it doesn't sound.
[00:09:10] Would you try it?
[00:09:13] I I'm not a fan of tickling, so I would not try it.
[00:09:17] I am very, very ticklish.
[00:09:19] And it'd be like a challenge for them.
[00:09:21] I'd be like, I doubt you can do this without me laughing.
[00:09:24] Like, uh huh.
[00:09:26] Well, OK, and I'm sure we'll talk about this later, but you don't even have to make contact.
[00:09:32] I'm already right.
[00:09:34] Yeah, exactly.
[00:09:36] Yeah.
[00:09:36] You just you look at me like you're gonna and you got me.
[00:09:39] I see the fingers go into tickle and I like freak out.
[00:09:44] So there is a lot of crossovers with this fetish.
[00:09:48] Like armpit fetish is a major one I came across and foot fetish as well.
[00:09:54] Yes.
[00:09:55] So I did find the actual name for the crossover between armpit fetish and tickling fetish.
[00:10:00] OK, that is do heaney.
[00:10:02] Oh, yeah.
[00:10:04] That was interesting.
[00:10:05] Did you find your notes?
[00:10:08] You know, I didn't find my notes, but I'll just remember some of the stuff that I was.
[00:10:13] OK, we're winging it.
[00:10:15] We're going to wing it a little bit.
[00:10:18] Sorry, I'll keep going.
[00:10:18] I got some more stuff.
[00:10:21] Well, yeah, I'm going to try and wing it, but I can't remember the definition.
[00:10:24] But there were there were ancient phrases that that were the same.
[00:10:30] There was a ancient Japanese.
[00:10:32] There was an ancient Latin.
[00:10:35] Yeah.
[00:10:37] The Latin one I thought was great.
[00:10:40] It was it basically translated to like the final the final touch.
[00:10:46] Oh, God.
[00:10:47] That sounds so awful.
[00:10:49] Yeah.
[00:10:49] I did find a tickledates dot com exists.
[00:10:55] OK, what is what is tickledates?
[00:10:57] It's a dating site.
[00:10:59] You can find people in your area who also enjoy tickling.
[00:11:04] Do you did you?
[00:11:05] I did try to sign up for science.
[00:11:08] OK.
[00:11:09] And but then it said we were not approved because they didn't think we were a real person.
[00:11:14] They were.
[00:11:15] Well, we were podcast.
[00:11:16] So.
[00:11:16] So did you did you get as far as like filling out a profile?
[00:11:22] Like, was there a.
[00:11:22] Yeah.
[00:11:23] So I guess from what I remember, you like choose, like check off different boxes of like.
[00:11:30] How you like to be tickled.
[00:11:32] Are you the tickler?
[00:11:33] Are you the tickly?
[00:11:34] That's what I was.
[00:11:35] Are you the switch?
[00:11:36] Yeah.
[00:11:36] Yeah.
[00:11:37] So it was pretty interesting.
[00:11:41] Did you have any more fun facts?
[00:11:43] Well, in the in the ancient Japanese, it was it was a punishment that was reserved for sort of.
[00:11:55] Like the worst of the worst.
[00:11:57] Yeah.
[00:11:58] That was that was one of the things that you could be eligible for if you did something that was just like.
[00:12:03] Way out of the norm.
[00:12:05] Right.
[00:12:05] All right.
[00:12:06] Let's let's move on to history.
[00:12:08] Yeah, let's do that.
[00:12:10] So there's a lot of history.
[00:12:12] This one was this one was fun because it goes back to ancient Greece.
[00:12:17] Oh, yeah.
[00:12:18] Yeah.
[00:12:18] We talked about the ancient Greeks.
[00:12:20] We do a lot.
[00:12:21] Yeah.
[00:12:22] Yes.
[00:12:22] They pop up every now and again.
[00:12:26] So Aristotle has this this great quote around 350 B.C.
[00:12:31] The fact that human beings are only are susceptible to tickling is due to one, the finesse of their skin.
[00:12:42] And two, they're being the only creatures that laugh.
[00:12:49] Both of those are wrong.
[00:12:50] I was just going to say, that's not right.
[00:12:53] Okay.
[00:12:54] You thought he had it figured out.
[00:12:56] But, you know, people learn.
[00:12:59] People move on.
[00:13:00] Um, Darwin, who famously came up with a theory of evolution.
[00:13:07] Yep.
[00:13:07] Um, he said that, um, that people have to react to tickles, um, if they're in a happy mood and they have to be surprised and touched lightly.
[00:13:21] Okay.
[00:13:22] That was, that was his criteria for being able to be tickled.
[00:13:26] Uh-huh.
[00:13:27] Um, Nietzsche, uh, he, he said, uh, what is the best life?
[00:13:38] To be tickled to death.
[00:13:40] No, that sounds awful.
[00:13:42] No, thank you.
[00:13:45] I mean, he was kind of a messed up guy, but, um.
[00:13:48] Yeah, it sounds like it.
[00:13:54] Um, in, okay, so like in ancient Japan, it was also practiced around the world, um, in, um, medieval England.
[00:14:05] People get locked in stocks.
[00:14:07] I remember that, that's the thing where you put your head and your hands in, and then it closed down.
[00:14:11] Yeah.
[00:14:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:14:13] No.
[00:14:15] And so, uh.
[00:14:16] And tickling is like a, a punishment.
[00:14:19] Well, kids would go and, and tickle people to mess with them.
[00:14:24] Why do I think, find that mean, but also kind of adorable?
[00:14:28] Right, right.
[00:14:30] Um.
[00:14:31] They didn't have the internet back then.
[00:14:33] They just, this was their fun.
[00:14:35] And it was, you know.
[00:14:37] Oh.
[00:14:37] It's sort of innocent, but also like.
[00:14:40] You know, as a kid.
[00:14:42] Right.
[00:14:43] What are you going to say to that?
[00:14:44] Right.
[00:14:45] Right.
[00:14:46] Um.
[00:14:47] There, there were, uh, there was a researcher in the 1940s in Ohio that used his test subjects, or his kids as his own test subjects.
[00:15:00] Yeah.
[00:15:01] Sounds like the tickle monster.
[00:15:02] Yeah.
[00:15:03] Um.
[00:15:04] Oh, the tickle monster.
[00:15:06] We'll get into that.
[00:15:07] Yeah, we'll get into that.
[00:15:08] Oh my gosh.
[00:15:09] Oh my gosh.
[00:15:11] Um.
[00:15:12] There's a, there's a lot of different, um, definitions.
[00:15:18] Yeah.
[00:15:18] Of, of tickling.
[00:15:20] That have, that have sort of changed over time.
[00:15:25] Uh, there's a researcher, Thomas Mintz, uh, in the 1960s, he called it, uh, the itch that moves.
[00:15:33] Okay.
[00:15:35] Uh-huh.
[00:15:35] Uh-huh.
[00:15:36] Um, he was saying that, like, at a neurological level, um, like, touching is, is localized.
[00:15:47] Mm-hmm.
[00:15:47] Um.
[00:15:49] And he said, um, tickling happens outside of us, whereas pain happens inside of us.
[00:15:59] Okay.
[00:16:00] Okay.
[00:16:01] All over our body.
[00:16:02] I, I don't know if I just said.
[00:16:04] Yeah.
[00:16:04] Like, I see where he's going with that, but like.
[00:16:08] I guess a tickle feeling inside your body would be very creepy.
[00:16:12] Like, under your skin.
[00:16:14] Ooh.
[00:16:15] Ooh.
[00:16:16] Like, in your head or something.
[00:16:18] Like, oh, no, no, no.
[00:16:19] That just sounds scary.
[00:16:21] Yeah.
[00:16:21] Then something medically is wrong.
[00:16:23] You totally turned that quote on its head.
[00:16:26] Uh-huh.
[00:16:29] Um, oh, there is this, uh, neuroscientist, Robert Provine.
[00:16:36] He, he broke it down for me really, really well.
[00:16:40] Mm-hmm.
[00:16:40] I like this one.
[00:16:41] Um.
[00:16:41] Um, he called tickling the, the oldest joke.
[00:16:45] Yeah.
[00:16:46] And the reason is it's a joke that you can basically tell to an infant.
[00:16:53] Right.
[00:16:54] Yeah.
[00:16:55] You can also tell that joke to a chimpanzee.
[00:16:57] Yes.
[00:16:58] Right.
[00:16:58] Right.
[00:16:59] And it's sort of like, I'm going to get you.
[00:17:00] I'm going to tickle you.
[00:17:01] Like what we're talking about.
[00:17:02] Right.
[00:17:03] Um, and so.
[00:17:06] It's not even actually a joke because, um, it's, it's an instinct.
[00:17:11] It's a reflex.
[00:17:12] Right.
[00:17:13] Do you want to, should we start with physiology?
[00:17:14] Let's do it.
[00:17:15] Okay.
[00:17:16] So like going from that, what you said, it's a joke that everybody gets.
[00:17:21] Even babies.
[00:17:22] Anyways.
[00:17:22] And a note I had about that is tickling is like one of the first bonding parents have
[00:17:28] with babies.
[00:17:29] Once they get that first like laugh reaction from a tickle, it's like, oh my God, it's so
[00:17:33] exciting.
[00:17:34] Yeah.
[00:17:36] That's right.
[00:17:36] It's like a social bonding thing for parents and babies and.
[00:17:40] Totally.
[00:17:41] Yeah.
[00:17:41] Um.
[00:17:42] Yeah.
[00:17:42] Go ahead.
[00:17:43] So then like, what was he?
[00:17:45] Physiology?
[00:17:46] No.
[00:17:46] Well, I'm talking about now I'm moving on to, uh, Arthur, uh, Kostler who is, he used
[00:17:51] a, uh, oh, he was an author.
[00:17:54] Okay.
[00:17:54] And he said that like, you know, with the, with a baby, it is only funny.
[00:18:05] Like they're only laughing if they know that there's no threat.
[00:18:10] Really?
[00:18:11] Yeah.
[00:18:12] Even babies know that?
[00:18:13] Well, yeah.
[00:18:13] I mean, if you're smiling.
[00:18:15] It's a natural instinct.
[00:18:16] Right.
[00:18:16] Yeah.
[00:18:17] And you feel safe.
[00:18:18] Oh.
[00:18:19] Yeah.
[00:18:20] Yeah.
[00:18:20] So then also here's the thing is, um, you're also imitating or playing the role of the quote
[00:18:28] unquote attacker, right?
[00:18:30] You're attacking with the tickles.
[00:18:31] And so for babies, it's their very first, um, entry into theater or play or like looking
[00:18:40] at things, uh, at two different levels.
[00:18:43] Wow.
[00:18:44] Yeah.
[00:18:44] I guess that's crazy.
[00:18:46] Mm hmm.
[00:18:48] Wow.
[00:18:48] I didn't think of it that way.
[00:18:49] That's wow.
[00:18:51] That's deep.
[00:18:52] Yeah.
[00:18:53] So yeah.
[00:18:56] Let's see.
[00:18:57] Um, do you have anything else for, I mean, I got so much, but I kind of cut you off there.
[00:19:02] Oh no.
[00:19:02] I thought we're moving on to physiology.
[00:19:04] Yeah.
[00:19:04] Yeah.
[00:19:04] That's what I meant.
[00:19:05] Like I, or do you have more history?
[00:19:09] Um, well, I mean, um, if you have more history, we can keep going with history.
[00:19:14] Let's do it.
[00:19:15] Yeah.
[00:19:16] Go ahead.
[00:19:16] So there, there's two types of tickling.
[00:19:21] There's kinesis and gargalesis.
[00:19:26] Okay.
[00:19:26] And, um.
[00:19:28] What are the differences?
[00:19:29] So kinesis is sort of that, um, light brushing feathers on your.
[00:19:40] Yeah.
[00:19:40] On your skin.
[00:19:41] Like you could accidentally like.
[00:19:43] Rush against somebody.
[00:19:45] Right.
[00:19:45] Yeah.
[00:19:46] And gargalesis is when someone is in those.
[00:19:51] Like the extreme tickling.
[00:19:52] Tickling.
[00:19:53] Well, any sort of like someone else is doing it to you.
[00:19:57] You can't do that to yourself.
[00:19:59] You can't.
[00:19:59] You can't tickle yourself.
[00:20:00] No.
[00:20:00] Right.
[00:20:01] And that's because you know, it's coming.
[00:20:04] You're anticipating it.
[00:20:05] Yep.
[00:20:06] Um, the, the, the kinesis or knees.
[00:20:11] Yeah.
[00:20:12] There's a K.
[00:20:12] But there's so many terms in this that are hard to say.
[00:20:15] It always happens.
[00:20:17] Um, but yeah, when you.
[00:20:19] That, that, that's totally possible.
[00:20:20] Just, you know, getting ready in the morning.
[00:20:22] You, you get tickled by your, the tag on your sweater or something.
[00:20:27] Right.
[00:20:28] Yeah.
[00:20:28] Basically what I found is that, um, when you try to tickle yourself, like you're, yeah.
[00:20:33] Like you said, your brain already expects a sensation.
[00:20:35] So it doesn't react the same way if somebody else surprised you with a tickle.
[00:20:40] If you, yeah.
[00:20:41] If you know what's coming.
[00:20:43] You're.
[00:20:44] Yeah.
[00:20:45] Mm hmm.
[00:20:47] So the, the psychologist that came up with this was a G Arthur Hall, who is basically
[00:20:53] like the, the father of American psychology.
[00:20:56] Like he was the first American to get a doctorate in psychology and at Harvard.
[00:21:02] And there were no jobs.
[00:21:05] Wait, did you say for a tickling?
[00:21:07] No, just for psychology.
[00:21:09] Okay.
[00:21:09] Okay.
[00:21:09] But this, this is one of the things that he worked on.
[00:21:12] Yeah.
[00:21:12] In his research.
[00:21:13] Mm hmm.
[00:21:15] Was, was tickling because it's, it's, and to, to look at like the, the, the people that
[00:21:20] have, um, talked about tickling that, that have, you know, um, Freud and, and Nietzsche
[00:21:30] and.
[00:21:31] Yeah.
[00:21:32] So he was the first one to like.
[00:21:33] Leto and, and well, he was, he was the first one to like really define it.
[00:21:38] Right.
[00:21:39] Um, there were a couple other definitions that I found that were, that were really cool.
[00:21:45] Um, tickling may be defined as an intensely vivid, um, complex of unsteady, ill localized
[00:21:58] and ill analyzed sensation with intention, uh, with a, with attention distributed over the
[00:22:05] immediately, immediate sensory contents and sensations reflexively evoked.
[00:22:14] Wow.
[00:22:15] Right.
[00:22:15] And if that doesn't make sense, that's because tickling is that weird and abstract that trying
[00:22:21] to like describe tickling is so difficult.
[00:22:25] Yeah.
[00:22:25] No, for sure.
[00:22:27] It is like, imagine trying to describe it to somebody who has never, who can't be tickled.
[00:22:34] How would you describe that?
[00:22:36] Like, I wouldn't even know where to start.
[00:22:39] Yeah.
[00:22:41] The alien.
[00:22:43] Yeah.
[00:22:44] Bianca has to describe tickling to the alien.
[00:22:46] Yeah.
[00:22:47] We do have a video of alien friend tickling Bianca, by the way.
[00:22:51] Yeah.
[00:22:52] So I guess, I guess she was able to explain that one.
[00:22:55] Yeah.
[00:22:56] Yeah.
[00:22:56] But some of these, some of these are so just like, what is that?
[00:22:59] Do you just threw words at him?
[00:23:02] Yeah.
[00:23:02] How deep?
[00:23:03] Oh, that's deep.
[00:23:06] Let's see.
[00:23:06] Do you have more history?
[00:23:08] No.
[00:23:08] I mean, I do, but no.
[00:23:10] Okay.
[00:23:12] All right.
[00:23:15] I guess more physiology.
[00:23:19] Let's see.
[00:23:20] So medical and the body stuff with tickling.
[00:23:23] Yes, it is possible to pee yourself from being tickled.
[00:23:26] Mm-hmm.
[00:23:27] I mean, let's be real.
[00:23:29] We've all laughed so hard where it happens a bit.
[00:23:35] Me, especially after having a baby.
[00:23:37] Yeah.
[00:23:37] I heard a lot of tickling stories when I was doing my research because it was sort of like,
[00:23:42] what are you working on?
[00:23:43] Tickling.
[00:23:43] And people would immediately launch into a tickle story.
[00:23:46] Yes.
[00:23:47] Right.
[00:23:47] Everyone has a tickle story.
[00:23:48] They do.
[00:23:49] And it's either really bad.
[00:23:52] Mm-hmm.
[00:23:53] I don't know if I ever heard a good one where they're like, that was so fun.
[00:23:57] Honestly.
[00:23:58] Good point.
[00:23:59] Now that they think of it, they're all like, oh, I hated it as a kid.
[00:24:03] Or like, yeah, I don't think I ever heard a good one where like, oh, I got a good one.
[00:24:07] It was so much fun.
[00:24:09] Like.
[00:24:10] I can't wait to get tickled again.
[00:24:11] Yeah, right?
[00:24:13] I mean, these people exist.
[00:24:15] Sure, sure.
[00:24:15] Obviously, we're doing this episode.
[00:24:17] But I never came across anybody personally.
[00:24:20] Yeah.
[00:24:20] So a friend of mine, like, kind of like, you know, was tortured by her sister.
[00:24:26] Yeah.
[00:24:28] Because her sister knew that she was going to pee.
[00:24:30] Like.
[00:24:31] Oh, God.
[00:24:31] That's so mean.
[00:24:32] And so started tickling her until she just peed her pants.
[00:24:36] Yeah.
[00:24:37] Basically, how that works is like, we're getting tickled.
[00:24:42] All your muscles are like, well, I'm out.
[00:24:44] I can't do this.
[00:24:45] And then the bladder's like, same.
[00:24:47] Oh, my gosh.
[00:24:48] Then it just naturally happens.
[00:24:51] You get the giggle drizzle.
[00:24:53] The giggle drizzle.
[00:24:57] That's the drink we should have had.
[00:24:58] The giggle drizzle.
[00:25:01] Lemonade.
[00:25:02] Yes.
[00:25:02] That's so funny.
[00:25:04] There is lemonade in our drink.
[00:25:05] Well, this one's pink lemonade.
[00:25:06] True.
[00:25:09] So next point.
[00:25:11] It can cause an aneurysm.
[00:25:13] Oh, my gosh.
[00:25:15] Uh-huh.
[00:25:15] And then I have.
[00:25:16] Oh, my gosh.
[00:25:18] Yes.
[00:25:19] A list of the most ticklish spots, starting from the least ticklish to the most ticklish.
[00:25:25] Yes.
[00:25:26] So number seven, the least ticklish.
[00:25:28] The back of your neck and shoulders.
[00:25:31] I kind of have to disagree.
[00:25:35] You're trying to tickle your own neck.
[00:25:37] It's not working.
[00:25:38] It's not working.
[00:25:40] Because when my son, youngest son, whenever he gets a haircut, it's almost impossible.
[00:25:49] We have to warn the hairdresser.
[00:25:51] Like, I'm so sorry.
[00:25:52] This happens every time.
[00:25:54] Just warn you.
[00:25:54] He's very ticklish on his neck.
[00:25:56] Like, he like, it's getting a haircut is so hard for him.
[00:26:01] The clippers used to tickle me.
[00:26:03] Okay.
[00:26:04] Yeah.
[00:26:05] It's like for him, it's even like once the hairdresser just like doesn't even touch his
[00:26:09] neck, just gets close.
[00:26:10] He like crunches up.
[00:26:12] And like, we always had to tip the hairdresser really well.
[00:26:15] I'm like, I'm so sorry.
[00:26:17] Yeah.
[00:26:18] Right.
[00:26:19] All right.
[00:26:20] Come at number six, the stomach.
[00:26:23] Yeah.
[00:26:23] Yeah.
[00:26:24] But I feel like that's higher up on the list.
[00:26:27] How is that number six?
[00:26:28] I don't think, I think it's different for everybody.
[00:26:30] So I don't know how this is.
[00:26:32] I don't know.
[00:26:33] You get what I'm saying?
[00:26:34] I think all of them are number one for me.
[00:26:37] I keep going.
[00:26:38] Number five is the knees.
[00:26:40] I think they mean like behind your knees.
[00:26:43] Either one.
[00:26:44] Oh God.
[00:26:45] Either way.
[00:26:46] Number four, the neck.
[00:26:48] Oh, I think they mean like the front of the neck.
[00:26:50] Yeah.
[00:26:51] Ooh.
[00:26:51] I mean, I can almost tickle myself there.
[00:26:53] Ugh.
[00:26:55] Number three, ribs and the sides.
[00:26:58] Oh yeah.
[00:26:59] I, okay.
[00:27:00] So my, one of my tattoos I have on my rib cage and that was a weird, they're like, you have
[00:27:06] to sit still.
[00:27:07] I'm like, I know I'm trying.
[00:27:08] It's a weird, like it hurts, but it tickles.
[00:27:12] Uh huh.
[00:27:13] It looks like a Picasso because you couldn't stop.
[00:27:16] Yeah.
[00:27:17] It's a tattoo of a ring pop.
[00:27:18] So it's like, no, it's, it turned out fine, but they're like the entire time.
[00:27:23] They're like, please stay still.
[00:27:27] Number two, armpits.
[00:27:30] Wow.
[00:27:30] What's above armpits?
[00:27:32] All right.
[00:27:33] Number one, the feet.
[00:27:35] Oh, of course.
[00:27:36] Yeah.
[00:27:36] Hello.
[00:27:37] Duh.
[00:27:37] Yes.
[00:27:38] Duh.
[00:27:39] Uh huh.
[00:27:39] Classic.
[00:27:40] So the next question is.
[00:27:42] The loony tunes.
[00:27:42] Yeah.
[00:27:43] The loony tunes are tickling.
[00:27:44] Yes.
[00:27:46] So that goes to my next question.
[00:27:48] Where is your most ticklish spot?
[00:27:49] But I guess you said everywhere.
[00:27:51] Everywhere.
[00:27:52] Okay.
[00:27:52] And there's some more that weren't on that list.
[00:27:54] Oh God.
[00:27:57] Ear lobes, elbows.
[00:27:59] Oh, I didn't even.
[00:28:00] Oh, the ear.
[00:28:00] Yeah.
[00:28:02] Wrists.
[00:28:03] Uh huh.
[00:28:03] Really?
[00:28:04] Oh my God.
[00:28:05] Like the inside of your wrist.
[00:28:06] Like the inside of the wrist.
[00:28:07] That is a thinner skin.
[00:28:08] Yeah.
[00:28:08] Which you think matters for tickling.
[00:28:10] Yeah.
[00:28:11] Oh my God.
[00:28:12] Thighs.
[00:28:14] Yes.
[00:28:15] Thighs.
[00:28:15] Okay.
[00:28:16] Whenever I'm sitting next to Danny, he'll always like squeeze my thigh and I squirm like
[00:28:20] crazy.
[00:28:20] I'm like, stop it.
[00:28:21] Yeah.
[00:28:22] That is.
[00:28:23] You're right.
[00:28:23] Thighs.
[00:28:24] Yep.
[00:28:26] Let's see.
[00:28:26] Why can't you tickle yourself?
[00:28:28] We already went over that.
[00:28:30] Um.
[00:28:32] Oh.
[00:28:33] Oh, but there are people that can tickle themselves.
[00:28:36] What?
[00:28:37] Schizophrenics can tickle themselves because they don't have that part of the brain that
[00:28:40] works like that.
[00:28:41] No way.
[00:28:42] Yes, they can.
[00:28:44] Are you kidding me?
[00:28:45] It's so cool.
[00:28:47] I mean, it would suck to have schizophrenia, but then I would be tickling myself like crazy
[00:28:50] just because I'm sure that they don't because I'm sure that it's just not on the
[00:28:55] radar.
[00:28:55] Like, well, if I got it, at least I'll do this.
[00:28:58] Right?
[00:28:59] No, I saw this, um, on TikTok.
[00:29:02] It was like, uh, a, somebody set up a, edited a video, a point of view video of what it,
[00:29:13] what everything looks like in the world.
[00:29:16] If you have.
[00:29:16] Oh, yeah.
[00:29:17] And it was like very scary.
[00:29:20] Oh, I can imagine.
[00:29:21] There's like faces all over everything and you had audio too.
[00:29:24] So you can hear like what they hear.
[00:29:26] Oh my God.
[00:29:27] It was very creepy and that's so sad.
[00:29:29] And I can't imagine the tickling thing too.
[00:29:32] Well, then I would be tickling myself just to, you know, brighten my day.
[00:29:35] Right?
[00:29:36] No kidding.
[00:29:37] Oh my goodness.
[00:29:39] It was tickling me.
[00:29:41] Yeah.
[00:29:41] Right?
[00:29:42] Let's have some fun.
[00:29:43] Oh, it's me.
[00:29:44] Oh.
[00:29:47] Oh, let's see.
[00:29:48] Oh, fun, fun fact.
[00:29:51] I forgot about.
[00:29:55] So historically they kind of think our bodies get, have become ticklish because it's like
[00:30:03] a, a, um, defense mechanism.
[00:30:06] Yes.
[00:30:07] I read that too.
[00:30:08] Yeah.
[00:30:09] Cause like in case something is to create awareness of something is like a bug or sorry, Lisa,
[00:30:14] a spider is crawling or moving on your skin.
[00:30:19] And you can feel that all those yuckies, you call those yuckies at your house.
[00:30:22] Yeah.
[00:30:22] Lisa hates spiders.
[00:30:24] Sorry.
[00:30:24] Yuckies.
[00:30:26] It's probably listening to this, like taking off her headphones, throwing them across the
[00:30:30] room.
[00:30:32] Sorry, Lisa.
[00:30:33] Sorry.
[00:30:33] Um, so, but yeah, to have the feeling of a bug or something crawling on you.
[00:30:38] So your, your body is aware of it so you can brush it off before it hurts you or bites
[00:30:43] you.
[00:30:44] And so like those sensitive parts are your most vulnerable parts.
[00:30:47] Oh yeah.
[00:30:48] Yeah.
[00:30:48] And I heard today that yuckies really go after like your thinner, thinner skinned areas.
[00:30:55] I didn't need to hear that.
[00:30:57] Because, because it's easiest to get to your veins cause they want the blood.
[00:31:03] Yeah.
[00:31:04] So like the insides of your arms, your wrists, like, yeah.
[00:31:09] I use his liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti.
[00:31:15] I am so sorry, Lisa.
[00:31:17] We'll move on from the keys.
[00:31:19] Um, uh, psychology?
[00:31:23] Yes.
[00:31:24] Did we both do psychology?
[00:31:25] I mean, we've been kind of like, it's, it's so intertwined with psychology.
[00:31:29] Right.
[00:31:29] There's, it's.
[00:31:30] So we both have notes about it.
[00:31:32] Yeah.
[00:31:33] Do you want to go first?
[00:31:34] With your first note, we'll just go back and forth?
[00:31:35] Yeah.
[00:31:36] All right.
[00:31:37] You want me to go first?
[00:31:39] Yeah, you go first.
[00:31:40] Okay.
[00:31:40] So my first note, um, so a lot of people I saw said it started like most kinks in their
[00:31:50] childhood.
[00:31:51] This person was like watching TV and watching cartoon characters get tickled and it just
[00:31:56] fascinated him ever since.
[00:31:58] And the older he got, he just mixed it with his sexual becoming and puberty and it just
[00:32:04] grew into this whole thing.
[00:32:08] Yeah.
[00:32:11] Um, I read that a lot of it was, um, discovery through other kinks as well.
[00:32:19] Okay.
[00:32:19] Like bondage was one of those.
[00:32:21] Yeah.
[00:32:22] There's a lot of crossovers.
[00:32:23] Definitely.
[00:32:24] What was that?
[00:32:24] What was that crossover term again?
[00:32:26] With the armpits?
[00:32:29] The, yeah.
[00:32:30] Uh, armpits and tickling.
[00:32:32] Doheny?
[00:32:33] Doheny.
[00:32:34] Yes.
[00:32:34] Yes.
[00:32:34] That's the one.
[00:32:35] Yeah.
[00:32:35] Sounds like Houdini.
[00:32:37] I know it does.
[00:32:40] See, tickling falls under the pain pleasure umbrella.
[00:32:45] Yes.
[00:32:46] Yeah.
[00:32:46] Yeah.
[00:32:47] Which some people obviously like having both at the same time.
[00:32:51] So, sure.
[00:32:53] Um, gosh, where is this quote?
[00:32:57] It, yes.
[00:32:58] Um, so there is this, uh, psychologist.
[00:33:04] Uh, Lacan.
[00:33:07] Um, so he, he coins this term, jouissance, um, which is, um, like physical or intellectual
[00:33:22] pleasure.
[00:33:23] Okay.
[00:33:23] Um, and this is, this is like in the, this is the 20th century.
[00:33:28] Um, and he, he basically says, um, there, there's this quote and, and the little backstory
[00:33:39] is, uh, there's this Greek myth, uh, King Denesis has, um, this, it's a punishment for
[00:33:50] these, his daughters.
[00:33:51] They, they killed her husband and they have to fill this jar that's cracked.
[00:33:56] You'll never fill this jar, but they have to fill this jar that's cracked for eternity.
[00:34:00] Okay.
[00:34:01] And, uh, Lacan says, oh God, the, there's so many names and terms for all this.
[00:34:08] Yeah.
[00:34:08] It's hard.
[00:34:09] We say, uh, is the jar of, uh, Danitis.
[00:34:14] Okay.
[00:34:16] And once you've, once you have started, you know, never where it will end.
[00:34:21] Oh.
[00:34:22] Yeah.
[00:34:22] It's like a warning.
[00:34:24] You were coming to a lot of deep quotes with this one.
[00:34:27] I like it.
[00:34:28] I butchered it like crazy.
[00:34:29] No, that's all right.
[00:34:30] There's so many words I've doing this podcast and I've just like, well, tried my best.
[00:34:36] Yeah.
[00:34:36] Yeah.
[00:34:36] But he was, yeah, he was very much equating it to like pleasure and pain.
[00:34:40] Like it will cross over.
[00:34:42] Oh, for sure.
[00:34:43] Sure.
[00:34:45] Um, let's see.
[00:34:47] Our cocktail is done.
[00:34:49] Uh oh.
[00:34:50] There's some ASMR.
[00:34:52] Love it.
[00:34:54] Um, you can grab more if you want or wine or whatever.
[00:34:58] I've got my water.
[00:34:59] Okay.
[00:35:01] Let's see.
[00:35:03] Um, where's my next note?
[00:35:06] Good to do.
[00:35:07] Oh, also foot fetish was another.
[00:35:10] Oh, for sure.
[00:35:11] Huge one.
[00:35:12] Yeah.
[00:35:12] Yes, definitely.
[00:35:16] So I read someone described it as they enjoy the challenge both as a sub and a dom.
[00:35:24] They enjoy it as a test of themselves, how much they can handle as a sub in this type
[00:35:29] of play and how much they can challenge others playing the dom in the role for this.
[00:35:34] Like, I don't I'd be like, nope, I give up as a sub.
[00:35:39] I'd be like, nope, I give up.
[00:35:39] Mm-hmm.
[00:35:40] And if I was a dom of this, I'd be like, I'm so sorry.
[00:35:44] Yeah.
[00:35:45] I could not.
[00:35:46] No.
[00:35:48] Because, I mean, some of the stuff that I watched was hard to watch.
[00:35:52] Yes.
[00:35:52] Doing research for this was very hard.
[00:35:54] Uh-huh.
[00:35:55] It was like cringy, like.
[00:35:56] Very cringy.
[00:35:57] And like, I had to turn it off, you know, take a break a couple times.
[00:36:01] Yeah.
[00:36:01] Right.
[00:36:02] Maybe that's why it took us so long to do research for this one.
[00:36:04] Yeah.
[00:36:04] Because we're like, I can only handle so much each day.
[00:36:08] Yeah.
[00:36:08] And coming from that, it's like a all over an endorphin floodgate.
[00:36:13] That's for sure.
[00:36:14] There was, I mean, the range of emotions was huge.
[00:36:18] Yeah.
[00:36:19] And that has to be something that's attractive about it.
[00:36:22] I guess if you're into that, some people, sensory overload.
[00:36:27] Sensory overload, absolutely.
[00:36:29] Yes, too much.
[00:36:30] Yeah.
[00:36:31] I'm the type of person who gets tickled like too much.
[00:36:33] I'm like, it's your own fault if I accidentally punch you in the face.
[00:36:38] You're only hurting yourself here.
[00:36:40] I cannot help my reflexes.
[00:36:42] I'm sorry.
[00:36:42] It's your own fault.
[00:36:44] Yeah.
[00:36:44] Lisa's very much the same way.
[00:36:46] Yeah.
[00:36:46] She's been sort of given that.
[00:36:47] She's given me that warning.
[00:36:49] Yeah.
[00:36:49] And I take heed.
[00:36:59] Tickle trauma.
[00:37:00] We did go over this a bit.
[00:37:02] Yeah.
[00:37:03] Uh-huh.
[00:37:04] When you have a bad tickling experience as an adult or child from being tickled.
[00:37:10] So it actually is a real thing you can be like diagnosed with.
[00:37:14] Yes.
[00:37:15] Um, like as an adult, I guess a kid too, where, you know, the people where you get, they get
[00:37:22] super pissed off and angry if you try to tickle them.
[00:37:25] Mm-hmm.
[00:37:25] Where they like scream at you and they actually get like actually upset and angry, like mad.
[00:37:31] And this emotion of anger will last for a long time.
[00:37:36] Like tickle trauma is a real thing.
[00:37:43] Mm-hmm.
[00:37:46] Yeah.
[00:37:46] Tickle torture used as a method of actual torture.
[00:37:51] Ugh.
[00:37:51] Hate that.
[00:37:52] Yeah.
[00:37:52] So, yeah.
[00:37:53] Those people definitely have tickle trauma.
[00:37:55] Yeah.
[00:37:56] I mean, I'm sure that there's all kinds of trauma wrapped up in that.
[00:38:00] Oh, for sure.
[00:38:01] More than, more levels than just tickling.
[00:38:04] Yeah.
[00:38:05] Well, if you have tickle trauma, there's tickle therapy.
[00:38:08] Ooh, that's good.
[00:38:09] Yeah.
[00:38:09] Some people who do this kind of therapy work say that your most ticklish spots are ticklish
[00:38:14] because the body tissue in that area is holding onto trauma.
[00:38:20] So, in this sort of therapy, they tickle you in those spots until you basically aren't ticklish
[00:38:24] anymore.
[00:38:25] Okay.
[00:38:25] So, maybe this is not for tickle trauma.
[00:38:28] This is for a different type of therapy.
[00:38:31] Tickle therapy.
[00:38:31] It's tickling you to get rid of trauma.
[00:38:34] It's the opposite, I guess.
[00:38:35] Gotcha.
[00:38:36] Read that wrong.
[00:38:37] But, yeah.
[00:38:37] So, they tickle you in those spots where they think you're holding all your trauma until
[00:38:43] you aren't ticklish anymore and, therefore, you think that hidden trauma will then disappear.
[00:38:50] I don't know.
[00:38:51] That sounds torturous to me.
[00:38:53] I think I just have tickle trauma after that.
[00:38:56] Right.
[00:38:57] Yeah.
[00:38:58] Oh, time to go to tickle therapy today.
[00:39:00] Like, who signs up for this now?
[00:39:03] I know who.
[00:39:04] We know who.
[00:39:05] Yeah.
[00:39:09] Do you have any more psychology notes?
[00:39:11] Um, I, I do, but they're downers.
[00:39:17] So, let's skip.
[00:39:17] No, no.
[00:39:18] Okay.
[00:39:19] All right.
[00:39:20] Let's see.
[00:39:21] This is a very, like, happy-sad episode.
[00:39:23] It's a happy-sad episode.
[00:39:24] It's tickling.
[00:39:25] It's like, yeah.
[00:39:25] I'm trying to save, like, the sad for the stuff that we can silver lining it with.
[00:39:31] Okay.
[00:39:32] Gotcha.
[00:39:32] Yes.
[00:39:33] I like that.
[00:39:34] All right.
[00:39:35] Should we move on to common practices then?
[00:39:38] Yeah.
[00:39:38] I think I did common practices, right?
[00:39:42] Yes.
[00:39:42] Yes.
[00:39:43] Okay.
[00:39:44] We'll get another drink here.
[00:39:47] Do, do, do, do.
[00:39:48] We need, like, a little song, like, little music, five-second break when I make a drink.
[00:39:55] I'll figure it out.
[00:39:57] Yeah.
[00:39:58] Elevator music or something.
[00:40:01] If you've got an idea for a bumper song, let us know.
[00:40:06] All right.
[00:40:06] So, common practices.
[00:40:09] So, you tickle someone or get tickled.
[00:40:12] That's it.
[00:40:12] I'm done.
[00:40:15] That seems commonplace to me.
[00:40:17] That's about as common as you get.
[00:40:18] That's it.
[00:40:20] So, like we said, this was hard to do research for.
[00:40:25] Watching the videos for science gave me the goosebumps and just cringed.
[00:40:31] Cringe.
[00:40:32] Yeah.
[00:40:32] But I did it for you guys.
[00:40:36] So, there is a reason.
[00:40:38] Oh, I got a list of tools used for tickling.
[00:40:42] It's a long list.
[00:40:43] I've been loving to do these lists lately.
[00:40:46] All right.
[00:40:46] You ready?
[00:40:50] Fingers, feathers, electric toothbrush, hairbrush, makeup brush, paintbrush, back scratcher, massage
[00:40:54] roller, cotton swabs or Q-tips, towel corners, soft fabric strips.
[00:40:59] Nope.
[00:40:59] Stop, stop, stop.
[00:41:00] I can't keep up.
[00:41:01] You're right.
[00:41:01] You're making notes.
[00:41:03] Fairy gloves, balloons, pom-poms, bubble wand, eyelash curler, tinsel, ribbon, rubber bands,
[00:41:09] silk scarves, feather dusters, Velcro scraps, the soft side, unless you're into the rough
[00:41:12] side.
[00:41:13] Fly swallows, soft toys, plant leaves, foam rollers.
[00:41:17] There's using a fan, water spray, a fan, that would hurt.
[00:41:20] I hurt.
[00:41:21] Water spray, mist setting, or maybe a hard setting if you're into that.
[00:41:25] Beaded necklace, duster mitt, plastic comb, marble sponge, cloth glove, crinkle paper,
[00:41:29] and just your goddamn hands.
[00:41:35] Okay.
[00:41:36] I'm taking a drink to that.
[00:41:37] Cheers.
[00:41:38] And drink.
[00:41:39] Cheers.
[00:41:46] I had to think about it a minute.
[00:41:47] Like, how does that?
[00:41:48] Oh.
[00:41:49] The fans?
[00:41:50] I bet that's blowing.
[00:41:52] Wait.
[00:41:53] Okay.
[00:41:53] In my mind, when I first read that, I was thinking an electrical fan, but now I'm thinking
[00:41:57] probably a hand fan.
[00:41:58] That too.
[00:41:59] Probably both.
[00:42:00] Either one.
[00:42:03] Oh, man.
[00:42:04] We have this long list.
[00:42:06] All right.
[00:42:07] Let's see.
[00:42:09] I have a list of phrases.
[00:42:12] Oh, you do?
[00:42:13] What do you mean?
[00:42:15] Phrases that use the word tickle.
[00:42:18] Okay.
[00:42:18] Let's do it.
[00:42:19] Yeah.
[00:42:19] Yeah.
[00:42:20] Go ahead.
[00:42:21] Tickle someone's pickle.
[00:42:23] Yes.
[00:42:24] To stimulate someone's penis sexually.
[00:42:27] Yep.
[00:42:29] Tickle someone's fancy.
[00:42:31] Yes.
[00:42:31] Okay.
[00:42:32] To amuse or entertain.
[00:42:36] Tickle the dragon's tail.
[00:42:38] I hadn't heard that one.
[00:42:39] I've never heard that one.
[00:42:40] What does it mean?
[00:42:40] That one's to annoy someone who's irritable.
[00:42:43] Oh.
[00:42:44] Now it makes sense.
[00:42:45] Someone who has tickle trauma.
[00:42:47] I wouldn't.
[00:42:47] Yeah.
[00:42:48] Okay.
[00:42:48] Well, I'm not going to tickle their dragon tail.
[00:42:51] Right.
[00:42:52] Tickle the twine.
[00:42:53] I don't think I've heard that one either.
[00:42:55] It must be Canadian because it means to score a goal in ice hockey.
[00:42:59] Okay.
[00:43:01] Hey, you going to tickle the twine there?
[00:43:02] Yes.
[00:43:03] Love it.
[00:43:04] Oh, sorry.
[00:43:10] Slap and tickle is mild, playful kissing, cuddling, and other amorous play.
[00:43:17] Okay.
[00:43:17] I know what you're talking about.
[00:43:18] I didn't know there was a term for it.
[00:43:20] I didn't either.
[00:43:21] Okay.
[00:43:24] Tickle someone's funny bone.
[00:43:25] Oh, yeah.
[00:43:26] We all know that one.
[00:43:27] Yep.
[00:43:27] Have you ever hit your funny bone?
[00:43:29] Yeah.
[00:43:30] It is not funny.
[00:43:31] It is not funny.
[00:43:32] Do not find that humorous.
[00:43:36] But, um, and, uh, having a tickle in your throat.
[00:43:41] Yes.
[00:43:42] All right.
[00:43:43] Definitely.
[00:43:43] That's a good list.
[00:43:44] I like that.
[00:43:45] Yeah.
[00:43:46] Not as good as yours.
[00:43:48] No.
[00:43:48] No bubble wand in mine.
[00:43:50] No bubble wand.
[00:43:51] Do you think they're like blowing bubbles onto the person?
[00:43:53] I can, I can imagine blowing bubbles or just like using the wand across.
[00:44:00] Or both.
[00:44:00] Yeah.
[00:44:01] Because bubbles can be ticklish, I guess.
[00:44:03] Yeah.
[00:44:04] Totally.
[00:44:05] If there's a lot of them.
[00:44:06] Oh, yeah.
[00:44:07] Right?
[00:44:07] Or maybe just one big bubble.
[00:44:11] Um, so, let's see.
[00:44:14] Did you go over the different levels of tickling?
[00:44:16] The different kinds?
[00:44:18] Like light tickling?
[00:44:19] No.
[00:44:20] I just went over the two different types.
[00:44:22] So let's talk about the levels of tickling.
[00:44:24] Well, I think I only have two types too.
[00:44:28] The nimesis and the gargalesis.
[00:44:30] Oh, yeah.
[00:44:31] Okay.
[00:44:32] So we dig over that.
[00:44:32] Yes.
[00:44:33] Uh-huh.
[00:44:34] Okay.
[00:44:34] Um, but I mean, everybody's different.
[00:44:37] There's definitely a spectrum of, you know, scale of one to ten of what's your, you know.
[00:44:44] Well, that was sort of like one of the things I saw in the psychology is like it's, um, there's that playful tickle.
[00:44:53] Right.
[00:44:54] That's sort of like, I'm gonna get you.
[00:44:56] Right.
[00:44:57] Right?
[00:44:58] Uh, and then there's like, I've got you.
[00:45:01] Yeah.
[00:45:01] And I'm gonna tickle you until I'm done tickling you.
[00:45:03] When you're like pinned down and like, yeah.
[00:45:06] Yeah.
[00:45:07] And that's.
[00:45:07] I hate those.
[00:45:09] Yeah.
[00:45:09] That's tickle torture.
[00:45:10] Yes.
[00:45:10] Right.
[00:45:11] Yeah, you don't necessarily have to be in like some sort of torture device to be a tickle tortured.
[00:45:16] Absolutely.
[00:45:17] Somebody can just pin you down.
[00:45:18] Yeah.
[00:45:18] Yeah.
[00:45:19] Which is what I saw a lot of that.
[00:45:21] Yeah.
[00:45:22] Just wrestling.
[00:45:24] Right.
[00:45:24] Leading to tickling.
[00:45:25] For sure.
[00:45:28] Um, yeah, there is, um, CNC tickling, which is consensual non-consent tickling.
[00:45:35] Mm-hmm.
[00:45:35] That's basically what tickle torture is.
[00:45:37] Yeah.
[00:45:37] Yeah.
[00:45:38] You're like, go ahead.
[00:45:39] Give it your all.
[00:45:41] And whatever I say, don't stop.
[00:45:42] Yeah.
[00:45:44] Uh-huh.
[00:45:45] Um.
[00:45:46] And that's like, uh, either with or without bondage.
[00:45:53] Right.
[00:45:54] For sure.
[00:45:55] Um.
[00:45:57] So it can be used along with like in the same play as other sensory play, like hot wax, spanking.
[00:46:06] And then they go back and forth from like that pain to tickle.
[00:46:09] So it's like you feel that pain from spanking or hot wax and then you get tickled.
[00:46:14] You kind of lighten the mood a bit and then you go back to the pain.
[00:46:17] Just go back and forth.
[00:46:18] That was the thing I saw too.
[00:46:20] Yeah.
[00:46:20] So it's like being peppered in.
[00:46:23] Right.
[00:46:24] That's where I saw like a lot of like the, the cross fetishes.
[00:46:28] Like it was.
[00:46:29] All right.
[00:46:29] We're moving on.
[00:46:30] Let's, let's switch it up.
[00:46:32] Yeah.
[00:46:33] Like, oh, you're in too much pain from, from all this spanking.
[00:46:36] Let me lighten up.
[00:46:36] I'll give you a feather tickle a little bit.
[00:46:38] Let's lighten the mood.
[00:46:39] Until you're asking for the spanking again.
[00:46:42] Back and forth.
[00:46:46] Um, so another common practice, we talked about all the devices you can be locked into for tickle torture or not.
[00:46:53] But one of them I saw that was common was, um, having your hands tied above your head from the ceiling.
[00:47:01] No, thanks.
[00:47:03] And it goes off your armpits.
[00:47:04] That's fully exposed and just, no, no.
[00:47:10] And it's a lot of, uh, shibari, like role play too.
[00:47:13] For tickling.
[00:47:14] Yep.
[00:47:14] There's a lot of, and stocks.
[00:47:16] I saw stocks.
[00:47:17] Yes.
[00:47:17] Yep.
[00:47:18] Oh yeah.
[00:47:19] There's a thing called a tickle foot.
[00:47:22] A tickle foot?
[00:47:23] Yes.
[00:47:24] So if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about and just Google it, just Google tickle foot.
[00:47:30] And it's a company that created this wearable foot insole that has three one inch motorized spinning discs with tiny brushes on each disc.
[00:47:39] Placed on the most ticklish three spots on the bottom of your foot.
[00:47:42] And you use a remote to activate them.
[00:47:45] So you put it in your shoe or somebody else's shoe and you, you, you are controlling it with the remote of how ticklish it gets.
[00:47:53] And yeah.
[00:47:56] Wow.
[00:47:57] Okay.
[00:47:58] Uh huh.
[00:48:00] Yeah.
[00:48:00] Yeah.
[00:48:00] I thought that was crazy.
[00:48:03] Um, safety.
[00:48:06] I think pretty much only safety is safe word for this one.
[00:48:12] Well, but I did come across like, what if you can't say the safe word?
[00:48:16] Cause you're laughing too hard.
[00:48:17] So be careful.
[00:48:20] So in my experience as a kid, the safe word was always, I'm serious.
[00:48:26] Okay.
[00:48:26] That makes, I was going to say, wait.
[00:48:28] Okay.
[00:48:29] Yeah.
[00:48:29] Stop.
[00:48:30] I'm serious.
[00:48:31] Like, Oh, he's serious.
[00:48:32] He's serious.
[00:48:37] That is like the go-to like, okay.
[00:48:39] They mean stop.
[00:48:40] Yeah.
[00:48:42] Oh God.
[00:48:45] Um, should we go on to medium pop culture?
[00:48:48] Yeah.
[00:48:49] There's a lot out there.
[00:48:50] This is, I think my favorite part of all this research.
[00:48:53] It was interesting.
[00:48:54] It was fun.
[00:48:56] Um, we both watched the same documentary.
[00:48:59] Yes.
[00:49:00] Let's kick it off with that.
[00:49:03] Yes.
[00:49:03] It's called the tickled documentary.
[00:49:05] I think it was on YouTube or to be, it was on, um, to be,
[00:49:11] yes, yes, it was.
[00:49:13] And, uh, gosh, it, no, no, the, the other one that we saw was on to be,
[00:49:20] this one I think was on Amazon.
[00:49:23] Oh, was it?
[00:49:24] Okay.
[00:49:24] Or at least I saw it on Amazon.
[00:49:26] There's a couple of different places.
[00:49:28] Okay.
[00:49:28] Okay.
[00:49:28] But, um,
[00:49:30] so should we describe what it's about?
[00:49:32] Yes, please.
[00:49:33] All right.
[00:49:33] So it's about this guy named David D'Amato and he owns a bunch of,
[00:49:40] tickle fetish websites, but he says it's not tickle fetish.
[00:49:44] He says it's C E T, which stands for competitive endurance tickling.
[00:49:51] And so what he would do is he would contact typically younger men,
[00:49:57] typically athletes from the athletes.
[00:49:59] Yeah.
[00:49:59] Yeah.
[00:50:00] From all over the United States.
[00:50:01] And he'd offer them a free flight to LA four nights at a nice hotel and $15,
[00:50:07] $1,500 cash to participate in a tickling video for his website.
[00:50:13] Yeah.
[00:50:14] But, oh my God.
[00:50:15] That was, that was the, that was the, the high end of the spectrum.
[00:50:19] There was a lot of it where it was, um, audition.
[00:50:23] Yeah.
[00:50:23] Yeah.
[00:50:24] But you go into watching this documentary and thinking you're going to learn about
[00:50:29] tickling.
[00:50:30] Nope.
[00:50:31] This was a wild ride of,
[00:50:33] Oh my gosh.
[00:50:35] So basically it was like, okay, what was it?
[00:50:38] Um,
[00:50:40] a journalist emailed them wanting to do a piece on them,
[00:50:46] a story.
[00:50:47] David Ferrier.
[00:50:48] Yes.
[00:50:49] And they took huge offense to it and like wrote him back at like an angry letter
[00:50:55] and, um,
[00:50:57] Completely shut him down.
[00:50:58] Yeah.
[00:51:00] It was, it was just such, it was like, okay, I compare it to,
[00:51:04] it was like watching the tiger King, but in the tickling world,
[00:51:08] it was like every 15 minutes you're like, wait, what just happened?
[00:51:12] Yeah.
[00:51:12] And then what?
[00:51:13] That basically that email was like, Oh,
[00:51:16] you don't want me to find out about this.
[00:51:18] Well, now I have to find out about.
[00:51:20] Yeah.
[00:51:21] Yep.
[00:51:21] For sure.
[00:51:23] But it was just so,
[00:51:24] we don't want to spoil it too much,
[00:51:25] but it was just so wild of a ride where there were so many turns that you
[00:51:29] would not expect.
[00:51:30] And you're like, what am I even watching anymore?
[00:51:32] This is what?
[00:51:33] Yeah.
[00:51:33] There were points when I was like,
[00:51:35] I forgot it was about tickling.
[00:51:37] And then like there,
[00:51:38] then they remind you.
[00:51:39] Yeah.
[00:51:40] It's about tickling.
[00:51:41] There's apparently a lot of drama on the tickling fetish world.
[00:51:44] Mm hmm.
[00:51:45] Wow.
[00:51:48] And,
[00:51:48] um,
[00:51:50] a lot of,
[00:51:51] um,
[00:51:52] mysterious people that,
[00:51:55] that their identity is really unknown.
[00:51:59] Yes.
[00:52:00] Yes.
[00:52:01] I know what you're talking about where,
[00:52:03] Oh my God.
[00:52:04] We can't even say it without spoiling.
[00:52:05] No spoilers.
[00:52:06] No,
[00:52:07] but everybody should watch it.
[00:52:08] It's a wild ride.
[00:52:09] If you like the tiger King,
[00:52:11] watch this.
[00:52:13] It was investigative reporting.
[00:52:15] It was really great.
[00:52:17] So good.
[00:52:18] And then there's a followup to after,
[00:52:20] which I didn't get a chance to watch.
[00:52:22] Did you check it out?
[00:52:23] I did.
[00:52:23] Okay,
[00:52:24] cool.
[00:52:24] I watched it last night.
[00:52:25] Um,
[00:52:25] the followup is,
[00:52:26] is on YouTube.
[00:52:27] It's 20 minutes called the tickle King.
[00:52:29] Okay.
[00:52:29] Okay.
[00:52:30] And so they recorded,
[00:52:34] and so they recorded,
[00:52:34] the journalists did the whole documentary for the Sundance film festival,
[00:52:37] um,
[00:52:38] about his experience with trying to get information about this tickle guy,
[00:52:43] David D'Amato and the websites and his whole journey through it and how it was this crazy journey of lawsuits and blackmailing and all this wild.
[00:52:52] It was a wild ride.
[00:52:53] Stalking.
[00:52:54] Yes.
[00:52:54] And so he did a followup.
[00:52:56] Um,
[00:52:57] and the followup was 20 minutes long of him actually showing his documentary that he created about this at the festival,
[00:53:07] the film festival and David D'Amato himself shows up to watch the screening.
[00:53:14] Oh my God.
[00:53:15] What?
[00:53:15] And,
[00:53:16] and he is like trying to,
[00:53:19] so he has like this coffee cup with him and it's like a paper Starbucks cup or whatever.
[00:53:25] And he's like holding it in front of him very awkwardly and security and the journalist who created the film notices.
[00:53:33] And he thinks that there's like a camera inside of the cup.
[00:53:38] And like,
[00:53:38] it turns out they called him out security,
[00:53:40] kicked him out.
[00:53:41] And he's like,
[00:53:44] David D'Amato is just like threatening him.
[00:53:46] Like,
[00:53:46] this is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
[00:53:48] You better lawyer up and all this stuff.
[00:53:49] And like,
[00:53:50] and it's fine.
[00:53:51] It's so funny that he's like,
[00:53:53] let's just record this and I'll make another short little video about you.
[00:53:59] It was so good.
[00:54:01] It was so good.
[00:54:02] Yeah.
[00:54:03] Definitely watch the followup.
[00:54:04] It's my jaw dropped.
[00:54:06] I'm like,
[00:54:06] no way.
[00:54:08] Wow.
[00:54:09] It was perfect.
[00:54:11] Of all the places.
[00:54:13] Yeah.
[00:54:14] Right.
[00:54:14] The Cannes Film Festival.
[00:54:16] Yeah.
[00:54:17] And like,
[00:54:17] okay.
[00:54:17] So David D'Amato also studied law.
[00:54:20] Right.
[00:54:21] Everybody should know for a couple of years.
[00:54:23] But he never did anything with it.
[00:54:26] Other than threaten to sue people.
[00:54:28] Right.
[00:54:28] And I'm sorry.
[00:54:29] Anybody who like this guy gets into like law practice,
[00:54:33] scares me.
[00:54:34] Yeah.
[00:54:34] Because it's like,
[00:54:35] obviously you're only studying law to know what they can get away with.
[00:54:39] And in the end,
[00:54:40] it's always like with ill intent.
[00:54:42] Like they never are doing anything positive with it.
[00:54:44] They're just like,
[00:54:44] I studied law.
[00:54:45] And so I know I can do this against you.
[00:54:47] And like,
[00:54:49] it's never with any good reasoning.
[00:54:51] It's kind of scary.
[00:54:52] Those people.
[00:54:54] We need like a Hippocratic oath for lawyers.
[00:54:56] Right.
[00:54:57] No kidding.
[00:54:58] He didn't even become an official lawyer.
[00:55:00] He just studied it.
[00:55:01] Like at school for a couple of years,
[00:55:02] just to like,
[00:55:03] know what he can get away with in tickling world with all these websites.
[00:55:06] Oh,
[00:55:07] wow.
[00:55:07] Yeah.
[00:55:08] Having like the quote unquote,
[00:55:09] like tickle models,
[00:55:11] like what he can get away with,
[00:55:13] make them sign to use all the content.
[00:55:15] Like it was all with ill intent.
[00:55:18] So he can get whatever he wanted without getting in trouble.
[00:55:21] Basically.
[00:55:23] Yeah.
[00:55:24] Good documentaries.
[00:55:25] Definitely go check those out.
[00:55:29] It tickled me.
[00:55:33] Tickled your fancy.
[00:55:34] Yes.
[00:55:36] There's another movie we watched.
[00:55:38] Which one?
[00:55:41] The tickle monster.
[00:55:43] Oh yeah.
[00:55:44] That's so that's a deep dive.
[00:55:46] I would,
[00:55:47] I have a couple of the short ones first.
[00:55:49] Cause that's going to be a long one.
[00:55:51] Oh,
[00:55:51] that's not that.
[00:55:52] Okay.
[00:55:52] Yeah.
[00:55:52] Okay.
[00:55:52] And that's not the actual title of it though.
[00:55:54] Right.
[00:55:55] Yes.
[00:55:55] True.
[00:55:57] So.
[00:55:58] Media pop culture.
[00:56:00] There's a band called tickle torture.
[00:56:02] Oh,
[00:56:02] right.
[00:56:02] From Minneapolis.
[00:56:03] I didn't know about this.
[00:56:04] Danny told me about it.
[00:56:06] Yeah.
[00:56:07] Um,
[00:56:11] let's see.
[00:56:11] Days of our lives have a lot of tickling scenes.
[00:56:14] Oh,
[00:56:14] interesting.
[00:56:15] Yeah.
[00:56:15] I thought that was interesting too.
[00:56:18] Did you see that clip of the Tyra Banks show I sent you?
[00:56:22] That's my next bullet point.
[00:56:23] Yes.
[00:56:23] Let's talk about it.
[00:56:26] Excuse me.
[00:56:27] Yeah.
[00:56:30] Jake's got a tickle in his throat.
[00:56:32] I have a tickle in my throat.
[00:56:34] Um,
[00:56:35] so.
[00:56:35] Great guest on this episode of Tyra.
[00:56:38] Yes.
[00:56:39] Quentin Tarantino.
[00:56:41] Uh huh.
[00:56:41] If anybody knows Quentin Tarantino,
[00:56:44] they know he makes great films and he loves feet.
[00:56:48] Yep.
[00:56:48] That's right.
[00:56:50] Loves feet.
[00:56:51] He always.
[00:56:51] More than movies.
[00:56:52] He loves feet.
[00:56:53] Yeah.
[00:56:54] He always like creates these roles in movies and just cast himself for the weird foot role.
[00:56:59] Like.
[00:57:00] You know who would be good?
[00:57:01] I think it'd be.
[00:57:02] It'd be me.
[00:57:03] Yeah.
[00:57:04] I'm going to do it.
[00:57:04] Yeah.
[00:57:06] Yeah.
[00:57:07] Uh,
[00:57:07] we should cast Selma Hayek.
[00:57:08] I think.
[00:57:09] Whoever he wants to see their feet.
[00:57:11] Interact with them.
[00:57:14] Yeah.
[00:57:15] So on this episode,
[00:57:16] he is judging feet.
[00:57:20] Yes.
[00:57:21] So Tyra,
[00:57:23] um,
[00:57:24] brings it up to him.
[00:57:25] Like,
[00:57:26] I heard you have a foot fetish.
[00:57:27] And he's like,
[00:57:28] I do.
[00:57:30] Yeah.
[00:57:30] And so she like invites three guests from the audience on stage.
[00:57:38] Um,
[00:57:40] go wait.
[00:57:40] Was this the,
[00:57:41] no,
[00:57:41] no.
[00:57:43] Well,
[00:57:43] this is a different clip.
[00:57:44] Right.
[00:57:45] But,
[00:57:45] um,
[00:57:46] the feet one sticking to what we're talking about.
[00:57:48] She hires three models.
[00:57:51] Yes.
[00:57:51] Yeah.
[00:57:52] And to show off their feet to him live on stage,
[00:57:55] but he can only see their feet.
[00:57:57] He can't see their faces.
[00:57:58] Yeah.
[00:57:59] They're like wearing a mask.
[00:58:00] So he can't judge them on that.
[00:58:02] Just their feet.
[00:58:04] And there's like,
[00:58:05] I don't know.
[00:58:06] He just picks up his favorite,
[00:58:07] right?
[00:58:08] Yeah.
[00:58:09] Oh yeah.
[00:58:10] Uh huh.
[00:58:10] He,
[00:58:12] he,
[00:58:13] he probably paid her for this show.
[00:58:15] Probably.
[00:58:16] He's probably like Tyra,
[00:58:18] you know,
[00:58:18] be good.
[00:58:19] It's exactly how it went down.
[00:58:21] Yeah.
[00:58:21] I get an idea for your show.
[00:58:22] I got it.
[00:58:23] Yeah.
[00:58:23] Let's do this.
[00:58:24] And she's like,
[00:58:25] okay.
[00:58:27] But then it was also in the Tyra bank show,
[00:58:30] right?
[00:58:30] Where they had the tickle segment.
[00:58:31] Yes.
[00:58:32] That was not with him.
[00:58:33] That was,
[00:58:34] um,
[00:58:35] with a couple,
[00:58:35] a couple that they booked for the show.
[00:58:37] Cause they were talking about their experience.
[00:58:39] Yes.
[00:58:39] And the couple was into tickling.
[00:58:41] Yes.
[00:58:42] Yeah.
[00:58:43] It was the same episode.
[00:58:44] Right.
[00:58:44] Yeah.
[00:58:45] It all tied together.
[00:58:46] But,
[00:58:46] um,
[00:58:46] um,
[00:58:47] so Tyra Banks,
[00:58:48] uh,
[00:58:48] invited three guests,
[00:58:50] three volunteers in the audience,
[00:58:52] uh,
[00:58:53] to come on stage and to see if they enjoyed the tickling.
[00:58:56] Yeah.
[00:58:56] With the couple.
[00:58:57] They had like a mini tickle orgy on stage.
[00:59:00] That's great.
[00:59:02] Um,
[00:59:03] this was like the nineties.
[00:59:05] It was an old clip.
[00:59:06] Yes,
[00:59:07] for sure.
[00:59:09] Let's see.
[00:59:10] And then,
[00:59:10] oh yeah,
[00:59:11] the tickle monster movie.
[00:59:13] Okay.
[00:59:14] So it,
[00:59:16] what is it called again?
[00:59:17] It's called fetish dolls die laughing.
[00:59:20] Fetish dolls die laughing.
[00:59:21] And well,
[00:59:23] that wasn't the original title,
[00:59:25] but let's,
[00:59:25] let's start from the beginning.
[00:59:26] Okay.
[00:59:27] Um,
[00:59:31] let's see.
[00:59:31] I'm going to go ahead and spoil some of this movie.
[00:59:33] Yeah.
[00:59:34] You're not actually spoiling anything.
[00:59:36] Let's be real.
[00:59:37] It's such like a B,
[00:59:38] C movie.
[00:59:39] It's so,
[00:59:39] you gotta go way down.
[00:59:40] Yeah.
[00:59:41] Yeah.
[00:59:41] For this one.
[00:59:41] It's very cheesy.
[00:59:42] It's very cheesy.
[00:59:43] I'm sure there are people that love it.
[00:59:45] Yeah.
[00:59:46] I am not one of them.
[00:59:47] I kind of really got into it towards the end.
[00:59:49] I know you did.
[00:59:50] I'm going to be honest.
[00:59:51] I did not finish this film.
[00:59:53] You didn't.
[00:59:54] I did.
[00:59:54] It was that bad.
[00:59:55] It was really bad.
[00:59:57] All right.
[00:59:58] So I guess I'll explain the movie a bit.
[01:00:01] Um,
[01:00:03] so it's about this couple.
[01:00:06] who they run a,
[01:00:08] like a BDSM fetish clip store online and they hire models for it.
[01:00:15] And they have like the tickle torture bed device thing in their studio.
[01:00:21] Right.
[01:00:23] And so I guess after a scene one day,
[01:00:28] the guy told her to like get in the bed.
[01:00:31] They're just playing around after they shot the scene.
[01:00:36] And he started like,
[01:00:38] he,
[01:00:39] she was very dominant towards him and he didn't like it.
[01:00:42] And so he got the chance to like tickle her when she's all tied up and she hated it.
[01:00:46] But he kept going.
[01:00:48] He kept going so much where he literally tickled her to death.
[01:00:52] She bet she died.
[01:00:54] Blood coming out of her mouth.
[01:00:55] Yeah.
[01:00:57] Like,
[01:00:59] like,
[01:00:59] like even like his fingernails were like dug into her skin.
[01:01:02] Her stomach was like bleeding to death.
[01:01:03] Yeah.
[01:01:04] It was insane.
[01:01:05] Um,
[01:01:06] hold on though.
[01:01:07] Yeah,
[01:01:08] go ahead.
[01:01:08] Then he takes her to the hospital.
[01:01:11] Yep.
[01:01:12] Takes her to the hospital.
[01:01:14] She's already dead.
[01:01:16] Yep.
[01:01:17] He's waiting in the waiting room.
[01:01:20] Mm hmm.
[01:01:20] She's,
[01:01:21] she's already dead.
[01:01:23] Already dead.
[01:01:24] When she,
[01:01:24] he took her to the hospital.
[01:01:25] Yes.
[01:01:26] The doctor comes out with a straight face.
[01:01:29] I'm sorry,
[01:01:30] sir.
[01:01:30] Your wife is dead.
[01:01:32] He's like,
[01:01:33] Oh,
[01:01:34] how'd that happen?
[01:01:36] That movie is so dumb.
[01:01:40] I still want people to watch it though.
[01:01:41] Cause it's one of those.
[01:01:42] I like,
[01:01:43] sometimes I like movies where they're so cheesy.
[01:01:45] It's good.
[01:01:46] It was so cheesy.
[01:01:47] Like I,
[01:01:48] I saw the room and the room was hard for me to watch.
[01:01:52] This made the room look like.
[01:01:53] I don't think I saw that one.
[01:01:55] A masterpiece.
[01:01:56] This made the room look like,
[01:01:59] like Lawrence of Arabia.
[01:02:01] Oh my God.
[01:02:02] So he's just like,
[01:02:03] then it goes on like this tickle monster killing spree.
[01:02:06] Yes.
[01:02:07] Where he like has people show up to the studio still to be filmed,
[01:02:11] paid models.
[01:02:12] And he,
[01:02:14] every single one turns into a victim.
[01:02:16] He like tickles them to death and he just keeps going and going and going.
[01:02:19] And like,
[01:02:20] we have to talk about the cops,
[01:02:22] the cops remind me.
[01:02:24] So there's this,
[01:02:26] there's this other killer out on the loose at the same time.
[01:02:30] Um,
[01:02:31] I think it was the,
[01:02:33] the cheerleader killer or something like that.
[01:02:36] I can't remember who it was.
[01:02:37] Uh,
[01:02:38] but there were these two cops on the task force,
[01:02:41] uh,
[01:02:42] a man and a woman that were ex lovers.
[01:02:46] Um,
[01:02:47] and,
[01:02:49] um,
[01:02:50] there was all this weird tension between them and they'd have all these like
[01:02:54] terrible cheesy lines.
[01:02:56] That was in this movie.
[01:02:56] That was in this movie.
[01:02:57] Do you not remember?
[01:02:59] Okay.
[01:02:59] So,
[01:03:00] um,
[01:03:01] people were,
[01:03:02] were getting,
[01:03:03] Oh,
[01:03:03] it was the,
[01:03:04] was it the bridesmaid killer?
[01:03:07] Maybe it was the bridesmaid killer because there is a scene where the
[01:03:10] chief of the task force,
[01:03:12] like slams his hand down on the,
[01:03:14] the table.
[01:03:15] People are afraid to get married in this town.
[01:03:18] Okay.
[01:03:18] Yeah.
[01:03:18] I do remember now.
[01:03:19] You gotta do something.
[01:03:22] I think I just had a bit tomato cocktail just to stand watching this movie.
[01:03:27] I was like,
[01:03:27] I need something.
[01:03:28] This is a awful.
[01:03:31] I do remember this now.
[01:03:32] Oh my God.
[01:03:33] The,
[01:03:34] the cops were,
[01:03:36] the cops were great.
[01:03:38] And when I mean great,
[01:03:39] they were bad.
[01:03:40] They were so great.
[01:03:41] They were,
[01:03:42] they were so bad.
[01:03:43] They were great.
[01:03:43] I love the cops.
[01:03:45] Everybody go watch this movie.
[01:03:46] If you want a good laugh,
[01:03:48] literally.
[01:03:49] Yeah.
[01:03:49] So she's got a new boyfriend.
[01:03:52] Her,
[01:03:52] her partner hates him.
[01:03:54] Yep.
[01:03:55] And,
[01:03:55] and they're always like,
[01:03:56] they got this public display of affection.
[01:03:59] Yep.
[01:04:00] And he starts complaining.
[01:04:01] Why don't you save that for the bedroom?
[01:04:03] Uh huh.
[01:04:03] Oh yeah.
[01:04:04] And then they just start going at it in front of him.
[01:04:07] Yes.
[01:04:08] And he's just standing there with his hands on his hips.
[01:04:11] Oh,
[01:04:12] you too.
[01:04:15] Oh my God.
[01:04:17] Honestly,
[01:04:18] I'd want them to make a remake of it.
[01:04:20] If we're like 2025 with a good budget.
[01:04:23] Yeah.
[01:04:23] I think it could be a good movie.
[01:04:25] Like if it was made today with a really good budget.
[01:04:28] I would change it from the maid of honor killer.
[01:04:32] That's what it was.
[01:04:33] Yeah.
[01:04:34] Maybe don't change it.
[01:04:35] I just read what it was.
[01:04:36] I just remembered what it was.
[01:04:39] Do we have any other media pop culture things?
[01:04:42] I think I'm done with my notes.
[01:04:44] Are you done?
[01:04:44] Do you have more?
[01:04:45] Oh God.
[01:04:48] It might've been it.
[01:04:49] Do you want to do that?
[01:04:49] That was,
[01:04:50] that was the,
[01:04:51] the real jewel of it all though.
[01:04:53] Yeah.
[01:04:54] And that was my favorite part doing this research was that movie.
[01:04:58] Couldn't,
[01:04:59] couldn't get through it,
[01:05:00] but I will never leave me.
[01:05:03] I will always remember what I saw.
[01:05:06] I'm going to finish this with another bean boozled.
[01:05:09] Oh,
[01:05:09] we're going to do this again.
[01:05:10] Okay.
[01:05:11] Okay.
[01:05:11] You got the jar right in front of me.
[01:05:13] All right.
[01:05:14] What color do you want to do this time?
[01:05:15] Let's not do the Brown.
[01:05:16] I'm scared of the Brown.
[01:05:17] Let's do that pink one.
[01:05:18] The pink one.
[01:05:19] I think those are the tutti frutti.
[01:05:20] We did that.
[01:05:21] Oh,
[01:05:22] is there,
[01:05:23] um,
[01:05:23] I don't want to do that one again.
[01:05:25] Let's do these green speckled ones.
[01:05:27] Okay.
[01:05:28] I like that.
[01:05:28] I was like,
[01:05:29] so let's see.
[01:05:32] The green speckled ones are either booger or juicy pear.
[01:05:38] All right.
[01:05:38] Ready?
[01:05:43] Oh,
[01:05:43] that booger.
[01:05:44] I got,
[01:05:45] I got it.
[01:05:46] No,
[01:05:47] no,
[01:05:47] I spit mine out.
[01:05:49] That's definitely booger.
[01:05:51] You obviously got juicy pear unless you really like boogers.
[01:05:54] I don't like boogers.
[01:05:55] You're still eating.
[01:05:57] That was all right.
[01:05:58] Uh,
[01:05:59] in the beginning,
[01:06:01] Jake was the one that got bean boozled.
[01:06:02] Now I finally got it.
[01:06:05] Gross.
[01:06:06] It's about time.
[01:06:08] Well,
[01:06:09] made us laugh.
[01:06:09] That was the point.
[01:06:12] All right.
[01:06:13] I think that's it.
[01:06:15] I need to take a drink now.
[01:06:17] Oh,
[01:06:18] no.
[01:06:20] Got us laughing.
[01:06:22] Okay.
[01:06:23] Got us laughing and didn't even need to tickle you.
[01:06:25] Yes.
[01:06:25] There we go.
[01:06:26] Perfect.
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[01:07:05] Thanks for coming up on today,
[01:07:07] Jake.
[01:07:07] It was fun.
[01:07:08] I had a blast.
[01:07:09] Yeah.
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